[nicknamee]

Your Name: 

Issued by: [L2] Blackdog

Blacklist ID: 68908

Server: v4b1

Why should you be unblacklisted?: I was blacklisted for 6 hours for (Improper use of weapons: Killing during a mugging after a 5 seconc countdown, not careing). First off, 6 hours for "improper use of weapons: killing during a mugging after 5 second countdown"? Wouldn't the staff team deem that harsh? I'm not one to get blacklisted or banned. My only other blacklist was for "teamkilling the president", when he brake checked me and the punishing staff member ONLY saw me ramming into him, which it ended up being lowered because it was "only partially my fault" I'm sure blackdog did not see the entire thing, because if he did the guy I was trying to mug would have been in a sit for fearRP. Second off, I was trying to explain why I killed him and blackdog pretty much just talked over me the entire time saying that I was in the wrong when he clearly did not see the entire thing take place, only the count down and the victim being shot, and when I was trying to explain myself, I said something smart and the punishment instantly went from 4 hours to 6. I really would like this reconsidered because considering the circumstances. I already gave the guy a chance when I initially had him under gunpoint inside AMPM, and then he ran outside, and It was at least 10 seconds of him staring at me from outside AMPM before he came back in. I admit, I should have given him a couple more seconds to give the money, but I let the anxiousness get to me and shot him a little bit too soon.

Evidence: 

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[BlackDog]

Your Name: 

Issued by: [L2] Blackdog

Blacklist ID: 68908

Server: v4b1

Why should you be unblacklisted?: I was blacklisted for 6 hours for (Improper use of weapons: Killing during a mugging after a 5 seconc countdown, not careing). First off, 6 hours for "improper use of weapons: killing during a mugging after 5 second countdown"? Wouldn't the staff team deem that harsh?

(Your BL was going to be 4hrs, but you began to get very flippent and said you didnt care, so i added 2 hours)

I'm not one to get blacklisted or banned. My only other blacklist was for "teamkilling the president", when he brake checked me and the punishing staff member ONLY saw me ramming into him, which it ended up being lowered because it was "only partially my fault" I'm sure blackdog did not see the entire thing, because if he did the guy I was trying to mug would have been in a sit for fearRP. Second off,

(I was there from about 5 seconds into your video when he said no sound, so I saw your entire situation, from the video it shows me that he did infact not notice what was fully going on since he could not hear, and only after you made it clear with a text message, he began to follow as now he understood)

I was trying to explain why I killed him and blackdog pretty much just talked over me the entire time saying that I was in the wrong when he clearly did not see the entire thing take place, only the count down and the victim being shot, and when I was trying to explain myself, I said something smart and the punishment instantly went from 4 hours to 6. I really would like this reconsidered because considering the circumstances.

(This is not darkRP, you do not just go "Give me 500 or you die in 5 seconds" This in no way gives the victim enough time to RP things, let alone type /givemoney 500 as everyone has a different typeing speed)

I already gave the guy a chance when I initially had him under gunpoint inside AMPM, and then he ran outside, and It was at least 10 seconds of him staring at me from outside AMPM before he came back in. I admit, I should have given him a couple more seconds to give the money, but I let the anxiousness get to me and shot him a little bit too soon.
(See the above points)

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Overall, you enacted a darkRP style mugging, where you pull a gun, and give someone very little time to react or respond properly, and then shoot them when they cant, there really is no justification of the action.

You dont, ever just run up to someone and go (Give money or die) That is just plain terrible

[nicknamee]

I admitted, I was caught up in the heat of the moment, when I pull a gun on somebody and try to rob them, my only thoughts are how to get out of there without getting caught. So all my thought processes left as the gun came out. Again, I'm sorry for the kindergarten RP and for pulling the trigger wayy too soon.

[goigle]

Overall, you enacted a darkRP style mugging, where you pull a gun, and give someone very little time to react or respond properly, and then shoot them when they cant, there really is no justification of the action.

You dont, ever just run up to someone and go (Give money or die) That is just plain terrible

We already had our guns out because we were trying to mug another dude quietly (we were tricking him to go into an abandoned building, I think the in game time was like 2-4 AM), and he was in a good spot and then he broke FearRP and ran off. The other guy walked in for whatever reason (probably to see what was going on, I told the guy I was gonna show him something cool) and then he got mugged.

While the actual execution may not have been the greatest (pun not intended), I think the overall setup was fine.

He did have a pretty decent amount of time to react and type - something he made no attempt to do at first. At the 0:46 marker is when Nickname initially asked for money, and less than a second later I typed $500 to indicate the amount.
He is shot at 1:00/1:01 and didn't even open the chat box until 0:59 (I'm ignoring the time when he opened/closed it instantly).
While Nickname could have made some better choices, the other guy is not completely out of fault either. He didn't have to give the money within the time, he could have said "OK" or otherwise acknowledged us.

[BlackDog]

We already had our guns out because we were trying to mug another dude quietly (we were tricking him to go into an abandoned building, I think the in game time was like 2-4 AM),

(I wouldnt really call the AMPM in the middle of the city an abandoned building)

and he was in a good spot and then he broke FearRP and ran off. The other guy walked in for whatever reason (probably to see what was going on, I told the guy I was gonna show him something cool) and then he got mugged.

While the actual execution may not have been the greatest (pun not intended), I think the overall setup was fine.

(The setup is in no way what the BL was about, it was the flat out terrible darkRP styled mugging style (5 sec monies or die)

Are there any final words on this before it is concluded?

[goigle]

Yeah just reglance through my previous post, I have a pretty obnoxious habit of posting and then editing. The 5 second countdown was a final warning and not the initial thing.

And an empty store, no matter where in the city, with no owner and no merchandise is basically by definition abandoned.
The lights may be on, but that's a source engine limitation more than anything.

[BlackDog]

Appeal Denied

The player you shot was not able to hear you from the looks of it, and this is supported by the fact when you typed out to him what was going on and indicateing it was him you we're actualy interacting with he listened, followed instructions, at the point he got inside you gave him 5 seconds to give you $500, you then shot him as he was typeing.

In the future do not pull this kind of mugging and give the victim only 5 seconds to give you anything, RP the situation out, most muggings do not end like Thomas and Martha wayne and your willingness to just blow him away simply because he did not adhere to your unreasonable and unobtainable time limit is no excuse.