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#1
Feb 14, 2016, 02:40 AM
Name of Player: Knox

SteamID: STEAM_0:1:42221590

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Time: 00:36 GMT

Summary: FearRP, CDM, FailRP, Powergaming - I also must note, this guy has 350+ hours and 6 REPs I mean come on... he should know wayyyyy better

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Feb 14, 2016, 02:44 AM
https://imgur.com/a/zQype

Involved.
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#3
Feb 14, 2016, 02:46 AM
I was involved too!
I also suggest the SWAT van should be nerfed
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#4
Feb 14, 2016, 02:52 AM
The defenition of FearRp: Fear for your life.

Im pretty sure I WASNT scared as I was on the other side of the Bulletproof, FireProof... Lifeproof Bearcat. So... if i was to make a decision based upon my fears... I would think it safer to stay IN the car.
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#5
Feb 14, 2016, 03:03 AM
What's failrp is you also know and don't care that we are armed and as we threaten someones life if you don't exit the car you still don't. You drive your bearcat around still.
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Feb 14, 2016, 03:08 AM
More Evidence of FearRP Breakage and CDM:
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#7
Feb 14, 2016, 03:12 AM
Involved - I was a witness to these events and even got shot by a spray bullet

This group was following this SWAT Van and shooting it as it drove from the suburbs to the lake.

In my opinion, I believe that FearRP didn't apply to know because of 2 reasons: 1. He is in a BULLETPROOF, INVINCIBLE vehicle, meaning why should he fear for his life if there is literally no danger to his life? 2. They were shooting at his SWAT van repeatedly, meaning that as well as his vehicle being a SWAT Van, being shot at should be a valid reason to drive away and protect your life. In order to protect his life, he obviously was going to stay in the SWAT Van to protect his life.
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#8
Feb 14, 2016, 03:16 AM
Also add power gaming.

When we threw a molotov he said this.

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Feb 14, 2016, 03:21 AM
Some more things:




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Feb 14, 2016, 03:21 AM
(Feb 14, 2016, 03:12 AM)whathe12 Wrote: Involved - I was a witness to these events and even got shot by a spray bullet

This group was following this SWAT Van and shooting it as it drove from the suburbs to the lake.  

In my opinion, I believe that FearRP didn't apply to know because of 2 reasons: 1. He is in a BULLETPROOF, INVINCIBLE vehicle, meaning why should he fear for his life if there is literally no danger to his life? 2. They were shooting at his SWAT van repeatedly, meaning that as well as his vehicle being a SWAT Van, being shot at should be a valid reason to drive away and protect your life. In order to protect his life, he obviously was going to stay in the SWAT Van to protect his life.

That doesn't mean he can CDM, TWICE or Powergame
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#11
Feb 14, 2016, 03:25 AM
I didn't witness any of the powergaming or CDM so I can't comment on that part.
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#12
Feb 14, 2016, 03:26 AM
The CDM was accidential. If an admin requests, I will show a video of the requested times.
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#13
Feb 14, 2016, 03:33 AM
Involved, I saw the ending portion of it when the gunfire started. The van was surrounded by players with weapons. At this moment there is no written rule that states an exception to the swat vehicle. It is a vehicle and follows the same rule as other vehicles. Therefore FearRP would qualify.

Though to be honest, I feel it is FailRP to follow a swat vehicle around for the intention of robbing it, but that is another matter altogether.

If it does not, this should be something added to the rules to clarify.
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#14
Feb 14, 2016, 03:34 AM
It was not with the intention of robbing it, the SWAT and some couple of officers tried to raid us. SWAT was the last remaining one and he refused to follow fearrp. Which ended with us following it.
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#15
Feb 14, 2016, 04:08 AM
Although there is evidence of Powergaming and Attempted (possible) CDM, I do not see evidence of fearp from the player Knox. The SWAT Van is basically a civilian tank. It is, fire, bullet, and even a little bomb proof. Why should the player follow fearp if he does not fear for his life in an almost you can say "Everything Proof" Vehicle? What you should have done is RP'ed trying to rip the door off with a tool since he was boxed in for so long.
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