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May 23, 2017, 05:48 PM
(May 23, 2017, 05:16 PM)Vatipaa Wrote: I think Islam and Jihad is different thing.

No. 'Jihad' is an important concept in Islam, although you must have been misinformed because it is not a violent concept. In Arabic, the word 'jihad' means struggle or striving.

That's the linguistic sense, now let's look at the religious sense.  As described by the Quran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, "jihad" has many meanings. It can refer to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslims or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam.

If jihad is required to protect the faith against others, it can be performed using anything from legal, diplomatic and economic to political means. If there is no peaceful alternative, Islam also allows the use of force, but there are strict rules of engagement. Innocents - such as women, children, or invalids - must never be harmed, and any peaceful overtures from the enemy must be accepted.

Military action is therefore only one means of jihad, and is very rare. To highlight this point, the Prophet Mohammed told his followers returning from a military campaign: "This day we have returned from the minor jihad to the major jihad," which he said meant returning from armed battle to the peaceful battle for self-control and betterment.

In case military action appears necessary, not everyone can declare jihad. The religious military campaign has to be declared by a proper authority, advised by scholars, who say the religion and people are under threat and violence is imperative to defend them. The concept of "just war" is very important.

A misuse of jihad contradicts Islam.

Examples of sanctioned military jihad include the Muslims' defensive battles against the Crusaders in medieval times, and before that some responses by Muslims against Byzantine and Persian attacks during the period of the early Islamic conquests.

TL;DR
Jihad is not a violent concept
Jihad is not a declaration of war against other religions. It is worth noting that the Koran specifically refers to Jews and Christians as "people of the book" who should be protected and respected. All three faiths worship the same God. Allah is just the Arabic word for God, and is used by Christian Arabs as well as Muslims.
Military action in the name of Islam has not been common in the history of Islam. Scholars says most calls for violent jihad are not sanctioned by Islam.
Warfare in the name of God is not unique to Islam. Other faiths throughout the world have waged wars with religious justifications
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May 23, 2017, 06:21 PM
(May 23, 2017, 05:48 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote:
(May 23, 2017, 05:16 PM)Vatipaa Wrote: I think Islam and Jihad is different thing.

No. 'Jihad' is an important concept in Islam, although you must have been misinformed because it is not a violent concept. In Arabic, the word 'jihad' means struggle or striving.

That's the linguistic sense, now let's look at the religious sense.  As described by the Quran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, "jihad" has many meanings. It can refer to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslims or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam.

If jihad is required to protect the faith against others, it can be performed using anything from legal, diplomatic and economic to political means. If there is no peaceful alternative, Islam also allows the use of force, but there are strict rules of engagement. Innocents - such as women, children, or invalids - must never be harmed, and any peaceful overtures from the enemy must be accepted.

Military action is therefore only one means of jihad, and is very rare. To highlight this point, the Prophet Mohammed told his followers returning from a military campaign: "This day we have returned from the minor jihad to the major jihad," which he said meant returning from armed battle to the peaceful battle for self-control and betterment.

In case military action appears necessary, not everyone can declare jihad. The religious military campaign has to be declared by a proper authority, advised by scholars, who say the religion and people are under threat and violence is imperative to defend them. The concept of "just war" is very important.

A misuse of jihad contradicts Islam.

Examples of sanctioned military jihad include the Muslims' defensive battles against the Crusaders in medieval times, and before that some responses by Muslims against Byzantine and Persian attacks during the period of the early Islamic conquests.

TL;DR
Jihad is not a violent concept
Jihad is not a declaration of war against other religions. It is worth noting that the Koran specifically refers to Jews and Christians as "people of the book" who should be protected and respected. All three faiths worship the same God. Allah is just the Arabic word for God, and is used by Christian Arabs as well as Muslims.
Military action in the name of Islam has not been common in the history of Islam. Scholars says most calls for violent jihad are not sanctioned by Islam.
Warfare in the name of God is not unique to Islam. Other faiths throughout the world have waged wars with religious justifications

I know, It's part of orders or what it was. But I meant it's not a violent concept like u said Wink
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May 23, 2017, 06:45 PM
The man who blew himself up at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, has been identified as 23-year-old Salman Abedi, who was known to British authorities prior to the attack.   According to the BBC, it is believed he was British or from the United Kingdom.
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May 23, 2017, 06:52 PM
Hang the fucker
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May 23, 2017, 06:59 PM
(May 23, 2017, 06:52 PM)Faustin Wrote: Hang the fucker

It was a suicide bomb can u even read
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May 23, 2017, 07:21 PM
(May 23, 2017, 06:59 PM)SourLemon Wrote:
(May 23, 2017, 06:52 PM)Faustin Wrote: Hang the fucker

It was a suicide bomb can u even read

Hang his body
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May 23, 2017, 07:51 PM
I live down the like 4street away from the arena ;c
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May 23, 2017, 07:51 PM
(May 23, 2017, 07:21 PM)Faustin Wrote:
(May 23, 2017, 06:59 PM)SourLemon Wrote:
(May 23, 2017, 06:52 PM)Faustin Wrote: Hang the fucker

It was a suicide bomb can u even read

Hang his body

What part of it?
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May 23, 2017, 07:54 PM
(May 23, 2017, 07:51 PM)Toxic Wrote:
(May 23, 2017, 07:21 PM)Faustin Wrote:
(May 23, 2017, 06:59 PM)SourLemon Wrote:
(May 23, 2017, 06:52 PM)Faustin Wrote: Hang the fucker

It was a suicide bomb can u even read

Hang his body

What part of it?

An ear maybe  Huh
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May 23, 2017, 08:02 PM
Y'all need to hang the ISIS barbarians.Turkey did that to Islamist rebels during the 1920's,and it worked.
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May 23, 2017, 08:10 PM
(May 23, 2017, 08:02 PM)Sharpshooter Wrote: Y'all need to hang the ISIS barbarians.Turkey did that to Islamist rebels during the 1920's,and it worked.

This country politicians are like a basket of scared puppies.
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May 23, 2017, 08:36 PM
(May 23, 2017, 06:45 PM)SourLemon Wrote: The man who blew himself up at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, has been identified as 23-year-old Salman Abedi, who was known to British authorities prior to the attack.   According to the BBC, it is believed he was British or from the United Kingdom.

"Salman Abedi" doesn't sound very British, does it? How is it that most of these attackers in Europe are known by the authorities before and has been under surveillance since they are potential terrorists and yet they can carry out these attacks? How are they even allowed to stay in European countries? People who are investigated as potential terrorists or have any terrorist connection in some way should be deported to the country they came from asap. This shouldn't be so hard to do, right?

In good news this will be forgotten in a few days and not remembered until the next attack in random European country.
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#28
May 23, 2017, 08:41 PM
This thread is not argue weather you think Muslim's are evil or some crap. Have some respect and let's remember an 8 year old girl among others died today

I'm getting rather tired of the same hateful comments from certain people now.
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May 23, 2017, 10:32 PM
ISIS has claimed responsibility





But they are probably just doing it for the opportunity
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#30
May 24, 2017, 03:58 AM
Whenever something awful and tragic happens, I can always count on the news section having a toxic comment or two like always.

Awful thing that happened, it's all so extremely unnecessary and pointless. Stay safe guys.
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