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bob - FailRP
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Apr 16, 2017, 06:48 PM
Name of Player: bob
SteamID: STEAM_0:0:204684829
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Time: (In UTC+0) Today at 4:30 PM
Summary: Was going to do a drive in to jail. Went to uncuff under the pretense he got in my vehicle (already did open door, said out of character to get in when I get in, etc), he took off running just saying "Stop wasting my time, stop wasting my time" not understanding that a jail sentece begins when placed in a cell.
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Apr 16, 2017, 06:48 PM
Thank you for your player-report, mywarthog.

It will take a while for it to be reviewed by our staff-members.
Meanwhile, the accused player and witnesses may reply to this report.
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Apr 16, 2017, 06:52 PM
I took off running, because you wasn't putting me at gun point
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Apr 16, 2017, 06:53 PM
And if you did put me at gunpoint I would of had got inside of the car, but you didn't therefore my reason to take off was valid.
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Apr 16, 2017, 06:54 PM
He could of had placed me in jail, but he didn't because he wasn't using his arrest baton which is there for the police officers to use. I had no idea what he was going to do with me.
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Apr 16, 2017, 06:57 PM
When placing in a car, uncuffing is merely a technical thing to be able to get into the car. As far as not using the baton, it was more or less connected to an already detailed RP situation (that the original officer to call shots fired was involved in), so I decided against using the baton and playing it out just because the RP that was connected to the situation was a pretty detailed one.

@Cameron was involved in the RP before you were (arrested for driving down railroad tracks and trespassing). @Winters (idk his account) was as well (the original officer that got out and put you at gunpoint as he was impounding Cameron's car from the original RP scenario).
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Apr 16, 2017, 06:58 PM
He had kept me detained for more than 5 mins and yet he failed to use his arrest baton.
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Apr 16, 2017, 07:00 PM
Well, you should of had told me that it was going to be that type of rp in out of character, instead of just leaving me detained for more than 5 mins.
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Apr 16, 2017, 07:00 PM
(Apr 16, 2017, 06:58 PM)bob Wrote: He had kept me detained for more than 5 mins and yet he failed to use his arrest baton.

Playing out an arrest situation is an RP option available to cops. Also, again - your detainment/arrest period starts when you are actually placed into a jail cell. Not beforehand.

There's also your attempt at metagaming shortly afterwards that I chose to let go, if you want to get technical with it.
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Apr 16, 2017, 07:07 PM
(Apr 16, 2017, 07:00 PM)mywarthog Wrote:
(Apr 16, 2017, 06:58 PM)bob Wrote: He had kept me detained for more than 5 mins and yet he failed to use his arrest baton.

Playing out an arrest situation is an RP option available to cops. Also, again - your detainment/arrest period starts when you are actually placed into a jail cell. Not beforehand.

There's also your attempt at metagaming shortly afterwards that I chose to let go, if you want to get technical with it.
Yes I did meta game, by accident because I wasn't thinking properly. But then I realised what I was doing was wrong. The situation was when I gave 1000 to Crazyone to kill you. However he didn't kill you and said "I dont want to break the rules".
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Apr 16, 2017, 07:08 PM
(Apr 16, 2017, 07:07 PM)bob Wrote:
(Apr 16, 2017, 07:00 PM)mywarthog Wrote:
(Apr 16, 2017, 06:58 PM)bob Wrote: He had kept me detained for more than 5 mins and yet he failed to use his arrest baton.

Playing out an arrest situation is an RP option available to cops. Also, again - your detainment/arrest period starts when you are actually placed into a jail cell. Not beforehand.

There's also your attempt at metagaming shortly afterwards that I chose to let go, if you want to get technical with it.
Yes I did meta game, by accident because I wasn't thinking properly. But then I realised what I was doing was wrong. The situation was when I gave 1000 to Crazyone to kill you. However he didn't kill you and said "I dont want to break the rules".
But when you're leaving a player detained for over 5mins then you will have to unarrest me, or just put me to jail. But for some reason when you were wasting my time you didn't say that you want to rp out this situation more detailfully instead of using the arrest baton.
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Apr 16, 2017, 07:11 PM
[quote pid='165289' dateline='1492362488']
But when you're leaving a player detained for over 5mins then you will have to unarrest me, or just put me to jail. But for some reason when you were wasting my time you didn't say that you want to rp out this situation more detailfully instead of using the arrest baton.
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If it had been 5 minutes since you were originally detained by Winters/the warrant was originally assigned, then I was unaware. I had you cuffed for about 2 minutes before you decided to start giving a hard time, that much I do know.

E: I just searched the IG rules for "5" and "five" and saw no such rule about 5 minute detainments. Also did a forums search for "detain minutes" with no results. I'm not sure where you're getting that one from, to be honest.
https://limelightgaming.net/derma/rules.html

What I did find, however, in regards to your "You didn't have a gun on me" post earlier:

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2.1e If someone switches from a gun to handcuffs/rope in order to detain you, FearRP still applies. 
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Apr 16, 2017, 07:18 PM
(Apr 16, 2017, 07:11 PM)mywarthog Wrote: [quote pid='165289' dateline='1492362488']
But when you're leaving a player detained for over 5mins then you will have to unarrest me, or just put me to jail. But for some reason when you were wasting my time you didn't say that you want to rp out this situation more detailfully instead of using the arrest baton.

If it had been 5 minutes since you were originally detained by Winters/the warrant was originally assigned, then I was unaware. I had you cuffed for about 2 minutes before you decided to start giving a hard time, that much I do know.

E: I just searched the IG rules for "5" and "five" and saw no such rule about 5 minute detainments. Also did a forums search for "detain minutes" with no results. I'm not sure where you're getting that one from, to be honest.
https://limelightgaming.net/derma/rules.html

What I did find, however, in regards to your "You didn't have a gun on me" post earlier:

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2.1e If someone switches from a gun to handcuffs/rope in order to detain you, FearRP still applies. 

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But you have unarrest me, therefore I can run away where as, if you held the gun at me to get inside of the car then fear rp applies but fear rp was not, when I had the chance to run away. Since you stepped into your car. But even if I was inside of your car you can tell me to get out.
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Apr 16, 2017, 07:18 PM
(Apr 16, 2017, 07:18 PM)bob Wrote:
(Apr 16, 2017, 07:11 PM)mywarthog Wrote: [quote pid='165289' dateline='1492362488']
But when you're leaving a player detained for over 5mins then you will have to unarrest me, or just put me to jail. But for some reason when you were wasting my time you didn't say that you want to rp out this situation more detailfully instead of using the arrest baton.

If it had been 5 minutes since you were originally detained by Winters/the warrant was originally assigned, then I was unaware. I had you cuffed for about 2 minutes before you decided to start giving a hard time, that much I do know.

E: I just searched the IG rules for "5" and "five" and saw no such rule about 5 minute detainments. Also did a forums search for "detain minutes" with no results. I'm not sure where you're getting that one from, to be honest.
https://limelightgaming.net/derma/rules.html

What I did find, however, in regards to your "You didn't have a gun on me" post earlier:

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2.1e If someone switches from a gun to handcuffs/rope in order to detain you, FearRP still applies. 
But you have unarrest me, therefore I can run away where as, if you held the gun at me to get inside of the car then fear rp applies but fear rp was not, when I had the chance to run away. Since you stepped into your car. But even if I was inside of your car you can tell me to get out.
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When you unarrested me you never pointed the gun at me, to get inside you just stepped in thinking I would of had got inside, but I ran off as my rp background and situation.
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Apr 16, 2017, 07:21 PM
That's where the FailRP comes in. You have over 250 hours on this server. You should know by now that even though you're uncuffed so that you can enter the vehicle, you're not actually "uncuffed" and are still detained in an RP sense.
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