[Chosen]

I support a change later not now we only just got a stable 50+ player base and we can't risk losing it changing the map

Well 50 People voted that we should change the map,  We Used the map alot , No other ideas to RP in it Used every single inch of the map. + Bad FPS in it , I guess its time to change it.

[Soviethooves]

I'd say we try a weekend trial, not a full change.

[Barkles]

I support a change later not now we only just got a stable 50+ player base and we can't risk losing it changing the map

Well 50 People voted that we should change the map,  We Used the map alot , No other ideas to RP in it Used every single inch of the map. + Bad FPS in it , I guess its time to change it.

50 people who are already active. should we want to grow we need to appeal to other people, should a map change happen it should be in the future when we have a very stable 50 every night over 2 months where we add a 2nd server to try maps on (Inc V2d because statistically its the most downloaded RP map aside from Downtown)

[The Rock]

I support a change later not now we only just got a stable 50+ player base and we can't risk losing it changing the map

Mate we dont need to touch in v4b1 for now , just open extra server with v5p and see how works

[Barkles]

I support a change later not now we only just got a stable 50+ player base and we can't risk losing it changing the map

Mate we dont need to touch in v4b1 for now , just open extra server with v5p and see how works

Yeah man thats what i mean

[Innovative]

51 Votes for a change.
Change is always good, if it doesn't workout it can always be reverted.

[Chosen]

If anyone don't really know v5p Here is some small video showing some parts of it.

[Vimpto]

hell ye i spend my life on single player on this map, however chaos city is bae and people wont have to rebuild some if there builds with chaos city and some stuff is in the same place and its almost the same as v4b1

[Nudel]

Bump.

[Doctor Internet]

Crosspost from https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-13704.html

As I see this, for each map being suggested there are positives and downsides.

EvoCity v2d
The old favourite
- Small map size, so is often cramped at higher populations.
- Roadways are not linked (start at the city, end at the lake)
- Unselectable Lifts (remember always getting stuck on the top floor?)
-Old.
+Good framerates on higher populations.
+Small map size, forcing people together, which can lead to RP.

EvoCity v33x series (v33x, v4p1)
The current map
- Poor FPS at medim framerates, for many systems.
+ Linked roads.
+ Selectable lifts.
+/- It's the current map.

EvoCity 2 Series (v2p)
Huge farms
-Huge map, which can make it feel empty.
-Some vehicles struggle up the hill.
+Huge map, giving you a lot of space to do your RPs.
+Transit system.
+Good FPS, even on higher populations.
+Varied RP enviroments.

Rockford
"oh dear, i messed the workshop up again"
+Large map, but still feels alive on low population.
+Roads link, with a surrounding highway.
+Out-of-the-way areas for alternative RPs.
+Reasonable FPS, even at higher populations.
+Good Fire Station for SirWulf.
-The maker messed up the workshop before.
-EU Rockford died (I didn't even know there was an EU Rockford.

Chaos City
I didn't know the park had an inbuilt desert.
-Large map, that can feel empty.
-Disconnection between the different biomes ruins my immersion.
+Doesn't seem to have the performance problems of its base. (But I haven't played it with 40 people.)
+Expansive road network.

*Whilst personally, I'd love V2p back, realistically, we don't have the population to support it.
*Rockford felt alive, even with a low, UK day US night population (I used to play on US), so I'd support having Rockford back.
*The v33x series is a nice series of maps, but have terrible optimisation issues. Those need sorting out, because 50pop can make the game unplayable for many people (including me ), and v4p1 also causes issues for others (With both @Burnett, the Help and Support Forums being proof of this.)
*I'd also support v2d, because personally, I liked that map. That being said, I'd prefer Rockford or 2p over 2d.
*Chaos is a nice map, but the issue with the biomes annoys me (more than it should.)

[Nudel]

I'd say we try a weekend trial, not a full change.

[yutgjctguc]

Huge +Support for v5p, transit system is important for RP server and it will be more realistic

[Dick]

-Sniped parts-

Rockford
"oh dear, i messed the workshop up again"
+Large map, but still feels alive on low population.
+Roads link, with a surrounding highway.
+Out-of-the-way areas for alternative RPs.
+Reasonable FPS, even at higher populations.
+Good Fire Station for SirWulf.
-The maker messed up the workshop before.
-EU Rockford died (I didn't even know there was an EU Rockford.

Chaos City
I didn't know the park had an inbuilt desert.
-Large map, that can feel empty.
-Disconnection between the different biomes ruins my immersion.
+Doesn't seem to have the performance problems of its base. (But I haven't played it with 40 people.)
+Expansive road network.

I love the thought of the two maps listed above from @Doctor Internet. Reasons listed below.

I love the thought of returning Rockford as to it's glory. There was even a full population back in the American days before the Rockford Missing File of 16. @Soviethooves and even @Toxic or @BlackDog would probably definantly agree that Rockford was an amazing map and we had a massive expansion of the American and even Auzzie (Love you, @Cameron) Expansion towards the main current Europe distribution we currently carry within the community. A lot of you will say Ping is terrible on the US server which was TRUE and I will agree however for the gameplay it actually didn't affect it. I live in the UK with terrible computer as viewed in a thread I made on Friday about this 9 year old piece of shit. I enjoyed Rockford and many others did. The only reason we had a mass decrease in population was due to the Rockford Missing File Event of 16 when the rockford owner said he replaces the map with the exsisting workshop collection rather than creating a new workshop item for the new update of the map. Because of this, players were unable to join with missing map files for the previous version of Rockford because if you launched Garry's Mod, the Steam Workshop would update it for you making it replaced and unable to join the US server. Because of the mass delay of fixing this map the US community slowly began to fade and there became less members on the US server which many on the US server would agree with me. Rockford is an excellent map to move to.

As for Chaos City, as much as I enjoy the feel of Biomes and different atmos features within each one, I do believe the massive collection of requirements to play correctly put me off slightly however part from that I do believe it would make a better map if users don't wish to play on Rockford. The biomes do put me off slightly however I do personally like them as it could invite different styles of roleplay in different areas.

[Project]

I would give rockford another try.

[Innovative]

I Think with the server averaging around 60+ players at peak, we should try out V5P, Could be a step in the right direction.