[Soviethooves]

Replace v4b1 to RP_Evocity_v5p?

Features:
CITY
- Nexus
   - 2 Nexus Elevators with an actual elevator shaft with ladders and emergency call button.
- Main St. Shops
- 2 Multi-Story Office Complexes (One is the office building opposite of Izzies Place in v4b1)
- Compact Medical Facility
- Midas Mechanic Shop
- Burger King
- v33x Offices
- Sub-Station
   - Contains Bank of America
- Back St. Buildings
- Dining Building
- 2 Story Drug Store
- Small Garage
- v2d Slums Building
OUTSIDE CITY
- Sinclair Dino Gas Station
RIVER SIDE
- Fire Station
- Misc. Industrial Buildings 4x
- One Multi-Building Facility Industrial
- v2d Bar
- Cub Foods
- Sub-Station
CLIFF SIDE
- Lake
- "Amish Village"
INDUSTRIAL AREA
- MTL Area
- Corleone Estate
- Sub-Station
- Functional Container Crane
- Trailer Village Lot

Pros:
- Multiple differently designed area
- 2 Subways, each tied 2 routes
- No more crummy elevator waiting with 2 elevators!
- v2d and v33x buildings
- Multiple roadways
- Main City with different "cultured" styles

Cons:
- No dupes
- Subways do not electracute people on the subway lines
- Can't directly control subways
- Some elevators are "old versions" where they have to go all the way up before going down

Why:
 The map offers a lot of diversity and a more "outlands" feel as you get farther from the city. The large size feeling is given off by entering and exiting the multiple tunnels that attach the areas to each other. In my opinion, it offers modified version of v33x and v2d buildings that increase RP ideas on this map.

[Jono]

It could, and perhaps should be trialed for an extended piece of time.

I would've responded with the argument that people are familiar with the map, even if not the community, and are more likely to join, however since moving from V33x, I can't say that point is really still valid.

Ultimately a map change would mostly be impacted by how players react to it.

So I simply ask, what problems are you trying to fix by changing map?

Potentially lesser lag,
Potentially a more evenly spread map
Potentially more fun, as updates which have been inhibited due to the limitations if V2B could be added. IE trucks, farmer jobs, more dynamic woodcutting etc.

Cons?
Lack of familiarity
Loss of dupes
Can have adverse effect of making map feel empty if population is spread (Works both ways imo.)
I can't think of any else to be honest.

But why Rockford over other maps?
Even a map which I love (chaos City) could be argued to be a better change. Has decent framerate, lots of different areas, different buildings, has a large skybox (potentially allowing aircraft of some variety). I would argue in this example, that chaos city has all the benefits and negatives associated with rockford, as well as some further benefits.



The structure of my post is abysmal, but I think my points are clear.

[Admiral.]

I would like to see choas city instead of Rockford, all the reasons are stated by Jono.

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[Pat]

I think EvoCity is Better that Rockford. But that's my Opinion.

[Lord Octagon]

Chaos City is a nice choice. Bearing in mind that we already have a somewhat large playerbase.

[Soviethooves]

I took a look at Chaos City v33x, and I do like the layout, but the extremely different biomes kill me. One second I am in what looks like a city with a good amount of pine wood tress and green flowers and bushes, then it hits a wall of desert like I just entered a new map.

Not to mention the Nexus props would kill anyone's dupes, but that's a small detail.

[Innovative]

I remember there was a gamemode that used chaos perfectly, id say it's fit into limelight smoothly.

[BlackDog]

Evocity 2 V5

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A mixture of many of the things we like about Rockford, 33x, V2d and V4b1 and improved on.

AND TWO FULLY FUNCTIONAL NEXUS ELEVATORS! WITH A FULL ELEVATOR SHAFT MODELED AND EXPLORABLE!

[Midget.]

I'm suggesting Evocity_edit.

I will add picture and that more later of why.

[Loaf]

Chaos City is garbo

v5p is a mix of everything we like about other maps, and it has less lag.

[evilmat360]

Evocity 2 V5

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A mixture of many of the things we like about Rockford, 33x, V2d and V4b1 and improved on.

AND TWO FULLY FUNCTIONAL NEXUS ELEVATORS! WITH A FULL ELEVATOR SHAFT MODELED AND EXPLORABLE!

this, please

Plus it has the bonus of the subway to let people get around without needing a vehicle. Think the elevator also has a reset system within the shaft so that you can fix it when doors get closed on the floor it is on.

[Overlewd]

Ill assume this is about rp_evocity2_v5p because that's the only one I found.

+Bigger city (generally more different buildings, v2d improved slums back, DTM in city, etc)
+Mechanic shop with lifters inside city
+Pre-made (ish) restaurants inside city for players who don't have many props.
+LADDER ACCESS TO ALL FLOORS IN THE NEXUS WITHOUT THE ELEVATOR
+Functioning subway-tram thingy underground
+Excellent medical centre in the city
+Functioning cargo crane?!
+Huge empty lots for custom houses near the corleone estate. (the map creator littered some trees in there however so that will be an issue sometimes)

+/- Doomfort sand island across the lake
+/- No barriers for MTL entry
+/- There are 2 industrials now lol (MTL and the rest are in separate places)


-We've gone right back to the v33x jails which arent as good for RP as the v4b1 ones. (very minor adjustments)
-We've gone right back to the v33x crappy white house in corleone with minor adjustments (mostly more trees) instead of the excellent empty space we have in v4b1
-No sniper hills near corleones ;-;
-The fire station is quite far from city
-Very long straight roads and tunnels leading to different map sections. Generally some areas feel a bit empty.

Overall it's great. A lot of the dupes would still work thanks to the transfer and empty spaces in the map. v4b1/v33x got stale for me and I'd support a map update like this any day

[Dick]

+support

Why is this not a suggestion! I needs everyting! It's just! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! It's just amazing! I palyed this so much on Singleplayer! There are cons however I think the Pros improve that!

[Nudel]

Evocity 2 V5

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A mixture of many of the things we like about Rockford, 33x, V2d and V4b1 and improved on.

AND TWO FULLY FUNCTIONAL NEXUS ELEVATORS! WITH A FULL ELEVATOR SHAFT MODELED AND EXPLORABLE!

Already got my +support

[Jono]

Bring back the memories of V2P...

I'll support this if the map allows better performance than the current one. A change is needed...I always liked V2p 'in the day.