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this is a topic that can be looked at from so many different angles that defining it as murder is a 50/50 thing imo

(May 15, 2020, 09:46 PM)Guv Wrote: [ -> ]this is a topic that can be looked at from so many different angles that defining it as murder is a 50/50 thing imo

Angles such as?

Rape?
Incest?
Dangers to the woman's body?

I fully agree with faustin, abortion is murder

Abortion is murder. Simple as that.

no, it's not

I firmly believe it can be justified, sometimes it's better for both the mother and the baby imo

(May 15, 2020, 09:58 PM)Dutch Wrote: [ -> ]no, it's not

How is it not? You're killing a human. That's murder.

(May 15, 2020, 10:01 PM)Tom* Wrote: [ -> ]I firmly believe it can be justified, sometimes it's better for both the mother and the baby imo

I fail to see how it can be justified? It is medically possible to extract an embryo/foetus and implant it into a surrogate if pregnancy risks the mother's life.

Ur a murder

(May 15, 2020, 10:09 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]

(May 15, 2020, 10:01 PM)Tom* Wrote: [ -> ]I firmly believe it can be justified, sometimes it's better for both the mother and the baby imo

I fail to see how it can be justified? It is medically possible to extract an embryo/foetus and implant it into a surrogate if pregnancy risks the mother's life.

But then how available is that to everybody? I feel it could be justified, Imagine bringing a Baby into the world to Drug addicted parents living in the slums who are 15?

(May 15, 2020, 10:11 PM)Tom* Wrote: [ -> ]

(May 15, 2020, 10:09 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]

(May 15, 2020, 10:01 PM)Tom* Wrote: [ -> ]I firmly believe it can be justified, sometimes it's better for both the mother and the baby imo

I fail to see how it can be justified? It is medically possible to extract an embryo/foetus and implant it into a surrogate if pregnancy risks the mother's life.

But then how available is that to everybody? I feel it could be justified, Imagine bringing a Baby into the world to Drug addicted parents living in the slums who are 15?

https://www.gov.uk/child-adoption/birth-...our-rights

EDIT: In that situation, Social Services/DCSF/CPS are likely to get involved anyways.

(May 15, 2020, 10:01 PM)Tom* Wrote: [ -> ]sometimes it's better for both the mother and the baby imo

Better for the baby? Let's ask the baby about its opinion. Oh, wait I forgot, it was killed.

(May 15, 2020, 10:11 PM)Tom* Wrote: [ -> ]

(May 15, 2020, 10:09 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]

(May 15, 2020, 10:01 PM)Tom* Wrote: [ -> ]I firmly believe it can be justified, sometimes it's better for both the mother and the baby imo

I fail to see how it can be justified? It is medically possible to extract an embryo/foetus and implant it into a surrogate if pregnancy risks the mother's life.

Imagine bringing a Baby into the world to Drug addicted parents living in the slums who are 15?

Is it the baby's fault???