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(Sep 8, 2017, 05:12 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:11 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:10 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:08 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:07 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]Your ignoring the fact its upto people weather they want to woodcut do a dealer rp fireman rp etc.

Please read black dogs first post.

Dont see how that is even relevant to my point. If you dont like woodcutting simply dont do it and do an rp yourself.

That attitude doesn't really work out... Do you see how much woodcutting inflates the economy? Since woodcutting items such as SCAR-H's have become worthless as you can get them in about 10minutes of woodcutting instead of a decent amount of time from other jobs.
It doesnt really considering your now exagerating how much woodcutting earns, its about 100k max an hour

And according to my calculations in an hour contraband earns... $12500 an hour, hmm thats a pretty big difference considering contraband used to be the most profitable income...
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:14 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:12 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:11 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:10 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:08 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]Please read black dogs first post.

Dont see how that is even relevant to my point. If you dont like woodcutting simply dont do it and do an rp yourself.

That attitude doesn't really work out... Do you see how much woodcutting inflates the economy? Since woodcutting items such as SCAR-H's have become worthless as you can get them in about 10minutes of woodcutting instead of a decent amount of time from other jobs.
It doesnt really considering your now exagerating how much woodcutting earns, its about 100k max an hour

And according to my calculations in an hour contraband earns... $12500 an hour, hmm thats a pretty big difference considering contraband used to be the most profitable income...
But with woodcutting your not watching youtube, everytime someone is woodcutting with me i atleast have some sort of coversation. Dont use the excuse 'you can get another device' because not everyone has access to that
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:15 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:14 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:12 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:11 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:10 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]Dont see how that is even relevant to my point. If you dont like woodcutting simply dont do it and do an rp yourself.

That attitude doesn't really work out... Do you see how much woodcutting inflates the economy? Since woodcutting items such as SCAR-H's have become worthless as you can get them in about 10minutes of woodcutting instead of a decent amount of time from other jobs.
It doesnt really considering your now exagerating how much woodcutting earns, its about 100k max an hour

And according to my calculations in an hour contraband earns... $12500 an hour, hmm thats a pretty big difference considering contraband used to be the most profitable income...
But with woodcutting your not watching youtube, everytime someone is woodcutting with me i atleast have some sort of coversation. Dont use the excuse 'you can get another device' because not everyone has access to that

Because people watch youtube and as such let the cops just destroy their contraband and such arrest them! Also no-one chats to anyone while woodcutting (Most of the time).
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:16 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:15 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:14 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:12 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:11 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]That attitude doesn't really work out... Do you see how much woodcutting inflates the economy? Since woodcutting items such as SCAR-H's have become worthless as you can get them in about 10minutes of woodcutting instead of a decent amount of time from other jobs.
It doesnt really considering your now exagerating how much woodcutting earns, its about 100k max an hour

And according to my calculations in an hour contraband earns... $12500 an hour, hmm thats a pretty big difference considering contraband used to be the most profitable income...
But with woodcutting your not watching youtube, everytime someone is woodcutting with me i atleast have some sort of coversation. Dont use the excuse 'you can get another device' because not everyone has access to that

Because people watch youtube and as such let the cops just destroy their contraband and such arrest them! Also no-one chats to anyone while woodcutting (Most of the time).

This is where you go wrong, you must barely woodcut yourself because alot of people interact. Your point about watching youtube makes no sense because you can here your door get rammed and the shots and people yelling, therefore your point is completely invalid.
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:18 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:16 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:15 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:14 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:12 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]It doesnt really considering your now exagerating how much woodcutting earns, its about 100k max an hour

And according to my calculations in an hour contraband earns... $12500 an hour, hmm thats a pretty big difference considering contraband used to be the most profitable income...
But with woodcutting your not watching youtube, everytime someone is woodcutting with me i atleast have some sort of coversation. Dont use the excuse 'you can get another device' because not everyone has access to that

Because people watch youtube and as such let the cops just destroy their contraband and such arrest them! Also no-one chats to anyone while woodcutting (Most of the time).

This is where you go wrong, you must barely woodcut yourself because alot of people interact. Your point about watching youtube makes no sense because you can here your door get rammed and the shots and people yelling, therefore your point is completely invalid.

Because police shoot you because you are standing in your home. By that time it is usually to late anyway as fearrp is usually applied.
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:19 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:18 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:16 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:15 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:14 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]And according to my calculations in an hour contraband earns... $12500 an hour, hmm thats a pretty big difference considering contraband used to be the most profitable income...
But with woodcutting your not watching youtube, everytime someone is woodcutting with me i atleast have some sort of coversation. Dont use the excuse 'you can get another device' because not everyone has access to that

Because people watch youtube and as such let the cops just destroy their contraband and such arrest them! Also no-one chats to anyone while woodcutting (Most of the time).

This is where you go wrong, you must barely woodcut yourself because alot of people interact. Your point about watching youtube makes no sense because you can here your door get rammed and the shots and people yelling, therefore your point is completely invalid.

Because police shoot you because you are standing in your home. By that time it is usually to late anyway as fearrp is usually applied.
Read my point again
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:19 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:19 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:18 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:16 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:15 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]But with woodcutting your not watching youtube, everytime someone is woodcutting with me i atleast have some sort of coversation. Dont use the excuse 'you can get another device' because not everyone has access to that

Because people watch youtube and as such let the cops just destroy their contraband and such arrest them! Also no-one chats to anyone while woodcutting (Most of the time).

This is where you go wrong, you must barely woodcut yourself because alot of people interact. Your point about watching youtube makes no sense because you can here your door get rammed and the shots and people yelling, therefore your point is completely invalid.

Because police shoot you because you are standing in your home. By that time it is usually to late anyway as fearrp is usually applied.
Read my point again
I said by the time the cops have rammed the door its usually to late to escape fearrp.
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:20 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:19 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:19 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:18 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:16 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]Because people watch youtube and as such let the cops just destroy their contraband and such arrest them! Also no-one chats to anyone while woodcutting (Most of the time).

This is where you go wrong, you must barely woodcut yourself because alot of people interact. Your point about watching youtube makes no sense because you can here your door get rammed and the shots and people yelling, therefore your point is completely invalid.

Because police shoot you because you are standing in your home. By that time it is usually to late anyway as fearrp is usually applied.
Read my point again
I said by the time the cops have rammed the door its usually to late to escape fearrp.

No because you dont place your contraband right next to the front or back door do you? And if you do your quite clearly not the smartest person.
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:21 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:20 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:19 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:19 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:18 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]This is where you go wrong, you must barely woodcut yourself because alot of people interact. Your point about watching youtube makes no sense because you can here your door get rammed and the shots and people yelling, therefore your point is completely invalid.

Because police shoot you because you are standing in your home. By that time it is usually to late anyway as fearrp is usually applied.
Read my point again
I said by the time the cops have rammed the door its usually to late to escape fearrp.

No because you dont place your contraband right next to the front or back door do you? And if you do your quite clearly not the smartest person.

Smaller houses, police can rush you easily in a matter of seconds due to the ability to instant ram.
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:22 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:21 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:20 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:19 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:19 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]Because police shoot you because you are standing in your home. By that time it is usually to late anyway as fearrp is usually applied.
Read my point again
I said by the time the cops have rammed the door its usually to late to escape fearrp.

No because you dont place your contraband right next to the front or back door do you? And if you do your quite clearly not the smartest person.

Smaller houses, police can rush you easily in a matter of seconds due to the ability to instant ram.
They still ahve to ram multiple doors and yell police open up usually before entering the property,
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:03 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:03 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:02 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 05:01 PM)Vimpto Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 8, 2017, 04:54 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: [ -> ]So taxi drives just sit around and wait? WeedRP involves BMD which can involve shady deal RP's, there are a lot of RP opportunities with it, but no-one does it because wood is way more profitable. Oh, and underground robbery and mugging is worse then left clicking a tree?

Hmm? clicking on an npc and getting 2k is shady to me

I think you forgot how BMD's do sell drugs like cocaine and items such as lock picks which gives that RP opportunity...
Nope, they do it out in the open and say there giving each other food. thats AMAZING rp right there.

Wonder why we don't see any good dealer RP's? Oh wait it is because nobody goes that job since they can just woodcut!

Just going to point out here that your complaining there is no good dealer RP's but you arnt doing one yourslef, instead you are just shooting cops, dieing going back after 10mins and restarting the shootout. As i was told myself by from previous mistakes by myself is being "Trigger Happy" so in no way are you beinfiting your own point besides complainin and not doing anything about it.
The way I see this is if we remove the biggest source the name it will make people adapt to new role plays. Closing woodcutting will not prevent the amount of aggressive role play in the server however when disabling it new roleplays will be seen especially new roleplays such as Chauffeur, Doctor and Chef.

These style of roleplays have slowly been sucked away from the server and it would open up a new market of roleplay especially if the two seen brought back. This bringing different styles of PASSIVERP which is what everyone has been complaining there been a lack of.

Upon the aggressive side Meth, Weed and Contraband will be opened to be a deadly side for the criminals enabling them to finds otherwise a of gaining money from Mugging or extauting people for protection and money.

My vote still remains for a +Suppprt. I see the pros being heavily more powerful than the con.
Still +supporting
Remove or Value Reduction, lets doo eeeeeeeeeet
+support
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