(Apr 7, 2017, 12:47 PM)Rizion Wrote: [ -> ]After all the things the western world messed up in the middle east it looks like a military strike is the only option. Doesn't make the option better tho.
And one last thing: bombs aren't precise enough to avoid civilian damage - you didn't only hit an air field but maybe a school/hospital etc. as well
Smart bombs? Hello 2017? The missiles used in the strike were Tomahawk Cruise Missiles which cost over a million dollars a missile, and are very VERY accurate pretty sure they are GPS guided. lol.
Quote:Tactical Tomahawk Weapons Control System (TTWCS)[8] takes advantage of a loitering feature in the missile's flight path and allows commanders to redirect the missile to an alternative target, if required. It can be reprogrammed in-flight to attack predesignated targets with GPS coordinates stored in its memory or to any other GPS coordinates. Also, the missile can send data about its status back to the commander. It entered service with the US Navy in late 2004. The Tactical Tomahawk Weapons Control System (TTWCS) added the capability for limited mission planning on board the firing unit (FRU).
GPS, INS, TERCOM, DSMAC, active radar homing (RGM/UGM-109B)
Why blame the West for the Easts stupid ideology? They started this war all we are trying to do is end it. If they are willing to use chemical weapons on their own population bombing them is the smallest of my worries. I will sleep like a baby tonight knowing they MIGHT have gotten the right people.
This is not the first time the US have threatened to bomb them:
Quote:President Trump launched missile strikes against the Syrian regime of Bashar Assad on Friday in response to chemical attacks that left 86 people dead, including 27 children.
Here's how we got here:
► April 29, 2011:
The U.S. puts sanctions on Syria's intelligence agency in response to the regime's crackdown on protesters during the "Arab Spring."
► Aug. 18, 2011:
President Obama — along with the leaders of Britain, France and Germany — calls for Assad to step down.
► Aug. 20, 2012:
Obama warns Assad the use of chemical or biological weapons would cross a "red line" for the U.S.
► Dec. 3, 2012:
Obama tells Assad: "The use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable, and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons there will be consequences, and you will be held accountable."
► March 19, 2013:
More than two dozen people, including several Syrian soldiers, die in a sarin gas attack in northern Syria. The government and rebels each blame the other for the incident.
► June 13, 2013:
The White House announces U.S. intelligence believes Assad used chemical weapons and vows to increase military aid to the rebels.
►Aug. 21, 2013:
Hundreds of men, women and children are gassed with the banned nerve agent sarin in an attack near Damascus. The U.S. blames the Syrian government.
►Aug. 31, 2013:
Obama says he has authorized the use of force against Syria but will seek authorization from Congress before carrying out strikes.
►Sept. 27, 2013:
The U.N. calls on Syria to destroy its chemical weapons stockpile.
►Oct. 14, 2013:
Syria signs the Chemical Weapons Convention, strictly prohibiting chemical weapons.
►June 23, 2014:
The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons says it removed the last of Syria's chemical weapons.
Chemical weapons expert wary of Syria
►Sept. 22, 2014:
The U.S. launches its first airstrikes against ISIS forces in Syria.
►April 2015
Syrian groups in Idlib province say barrel bombs containing chlorine were dropped.
►Oct. 30, 2015:
Obama authorizes the deployment of U.S. military advisers into Syria to combat ISIS.
►August and September 2016
Hospital officials and activists in Aleppo say chlorine gas is used in attacks.
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The UN's special envoy to Syria said an attack with chlorine gas in Aleppo Syria would be "a war crime" if such an attack is confirmed. His comments come after a Syrian rescue worker said three civilians have died in such an attack. (Aug. 11) AP
►Feb. 28., 2017:
Russia and China veto a U.N. Security Council resolution authorizing sanctions against Syria for chemical weapons use.
►April 4, 2017:
An attack on a rebel-held city in northern Syria kills at least 86 people, 27 of them children. Autopsies on three Syrians who died after being brought to Turkey for treatment suggest sarin was used in the attack.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl...100150344/
PS: I don't care much for formatting so don't comment on it.
(Apr 7, 2017, 12:47 PM)Rizion Wrote: [ -> ]After all the things the western world messed up in the middle east it looks like a military strike is the only option. Doesn't make the option better tho.
And one last thing: bombs aren't precise enough to avoid civilian damage - you didn't only hit an air field but maybe a school/hospital etc. as well
By military strike you mean airstrike? Because that already happened for years during the Obama's administration with the EU and barely affected anything, and Obama dropped 26171 bombs in 2016 in Syria and the war is still going on.
Sure thing, your "military strike" doesn't make the option better than what you previously said:
Quote:This definitely is the wrong awnser.
"Let's bomb Syria to remind Syria not to bomb Syria."
I feel like this will end in a new "war" in the middle east. - Rizion
Because from what I've read you don't want the civil war in Syria and most likely you want peace in that country. But then again, any "military strike" isn't enough, even what Trump did wasn't enough in Syria. I believe those $93,810,000 59 Tomahawk missiles that were launched in Syria is just political although he only started politics not long ago. The 59 Tomahawk missiles is simply not enough, but maybe in terms of Political it is somewhat enough since Russia doesn't like to see Syria being bombed by the US and not long ago they already gave a warning to the US for U.S-Russia relations to be at risk.
And just what
Rickets said, bombing them is the smallest of his worries, you should try that too because Obama bombed Syria with 26171 bombs in 2016 alone and that wasn't long ago. So therefore you don't need to worry about what happened over there.
(Apr 7, 2017, 07:48 PM)SourLemon Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 7, 2017, 07:24 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: [ -> ]I actually hope that syria and russia strike back. It not even 100% proved that the syrian army is responsible for that. There we 2 different kinds of chemical gases. 1 Bomb. 1 Jet. Tell me how one bomb can have 2 chemical substances which couldnt be used together ín one bomb. As heard from local citizen the place is known for a chemical storage of the rebels.
What are you a fucking commie. i hope they fucking invade your country first
Hmm. Pretty bad that I live in Germany. One of the NATO member but I dont think that you know something like that.
Iam not a "commie". I just think that these strikes are wrong.
(Apr 7, 2017, 08:26 PM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 7, 2017, 07:24 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: [ -> ]I actually hope that syria and russia strike back. It not even 100% proved that the syrian army is responsible for that. There we 2 different kinds of chemical gases. 1 Bomb. 1 Jet. Tell me how one bomb can have 2 chemical substances which couldnt be used together ín one bomb. As heard from local citizen the place is known for a chemical storage of the rebels.
I'm sure it would be possible to fill a bomb with two containers. Or even some kind of chemical reaction that occurs between the two. We're not in the 1940s where one bomb can only contain one material. And lets say that the Rebels do have chemicals, why would the Syrian army still bomb a village with civilians? More importantly I don't think the Rebels have any jets at their disposal.
Never said that the rebels got jets. Maybe you understood me wrong. I think that the syrian air force hit a chemical storage of the rebels.
There were 2 different gases "flying" around. Both of these can not react together in one bomb. And please tell me... why should Assad bomb this town if he is already winning against this rebel scum? No reason behind it.
(Apr 8, 2017, 12:26 AM)Zombie Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 8, 2017, 12:23 AM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 7, 2017, 07:48 PM)SourLemon Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 7, 2017, 07:24 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: [ -> ]I actually hope that syria and russia strike back. It not even 100% proved that the syrian army is responsible for that. There we 2 different kinds of chemical gases. 1 Bomb. 1 Jet. Tell me how one bomb can have 2 chemical substances which couldnt be used together ín one bomb. As heard from local citizen the place is known for a chemical storage of the rebels.
What are you a fucking commie. i hope they fucking invade your country first
Hmm. Pretty bad that I live in Germany. One of the NATO member but I dont think that you know something like that.
Iam not a "commie". I just think that these strikes are wrong.
He was joking with you.
Fuck I laugh my ass off. Would be funny to see him in a air strike too. Dont think that he will joke around then.
Actually Iam not thinking that he is joking. Some people are "special". But Iam not here to discuss with such people lol.
(Apr 7, 2017, 07:24 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: [ -> ]I actually hope that syria and russia strike back.
Why dont you fucking move to Syria and fucking join the rest of them since you seem to be on their side.
(Apr 8, 2017, 12:25 AM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 7, 2017, 08:26 PM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 7, 2017, 07:24 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: [ -> ]I actually hope that syria and russia strike back. It not even 100% proved that the syrian army is responsible for that. There we 2 different kinds of chemical gases. 1 Bomb. 1 Jet. Tell me how one bomb can have 2 chemical substances which couldnt be used together ín one bomb. As heard from local citizen the place is known for a chemical storage of the rebels.
I'm sure it would be possible to fill a bomb with two containers. Or even some kind of chemical reaction that occurs between the two. We're not in the 1940s where one bomb can only contain one material. And lets say that the Rebels do have chemicals, why would the Syrian army still bomb a village with civilians? More importantly I don't think the Rebels have any jets at their disposal.
Never said that the rebels got jets. Maybe you understood me wrong. I think that the syrian air force hit a chemical storage of the rebels.
There were 2 different gases "flying" around. Both of these can not react together in one bomb. And please tell me... why should Assad bomb this town if he is already winning against this rebel scum? No reason behind it.
No I understand what you said about the chemical storage areas, though I doubt that personally unless there's significant evidence. Instead I'll rely on the past accusations and conflicts where the same exact Regime used chemical weapons in other regions.
And "winning against this rebel scum" is saying it lightly. Syria isn't a safe country, and is home to many terrorist cells, ISIS for example was created in Syria. The only reason why they have a chance now is due to Russian intervention. That's not winning.
(Apr 8, 2017, 12:29 AM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 8, 2017, 12:26 AM)Zombie Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 8, 2017, 12:23 AM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 7, 2017, 07:48 PM)SourLemon Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr 7, 2017, 07:24 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: [ -> ]I actually hope that syria and russia strike back. It not even 100% proved that the syrian army is responsible for that. There we 2 different kinds of chemical gases. 1 Bomb. 1 Jet. Tell me how one bomb can have 2 chemical substances which couldnt be used together ín one bomb. As heard from local citizen the place is known for a chemical storage of the rebels.
What are you a fucking commie. i hope they fucking invade your country first
Hmm. Pretty bad that I live in Germany. One of the NATO member but I dont think that you know something like that.
Iam not a "commie". I just think that these strikes are wrong.
He was joking with you.
Fuck I laugh my ass off. Would be funny to see him in a air strike too. Dont think that he will joke around then.
Actually Iam not thinking that he is joking. Some people are "special". But Iam not here to discuss with such people lol.
I honestly thought he was being sarcastic, I didn't expect him to be serious.
Typical US/Russian actions: They both indirectly fight against each other... The US through the rebels and Russia trough the Assad regime.
They are fighting on the back of the Syrian civilians.
I don't like Trump as a president but he made a good call on the airstrikes
About fucking time the US did something important. Obama was all talk, no game, like that annoying kid in elementary school. He did jack shit even though they used chemical weapons. And the chance that a civilian is injured in the strike is pretty low. Considering how many people, including children, were killed in the chemical attack, 1 or 2 civilian injuries is not bad.
About damn time. Chemical weapons on a Civilian population hopefully crosses a line in the sand for the world.
Obama warned him time and time again. Trump actually did something about it.