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(Mar 23, 2017, 06:38 PM)Eclipze Wrote: [ -> ]Its really horrible what happened but how can you call this an act of terrorism but call the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan an act of war?

Actually I think you make a very good point, the lines between war and acts of terrorism have blurred substantially since the Geneva convention. Many Americans feel uncomfortable that their government; (whilst warning of the dangers of international terrorism) would at the same exact time perpetrate military drone strikes that consequentially kill tons of civillians from Pakistan, Yemen and many other countries. 

Quote:For example, according to multiple studies by Human Rights Watch, Yemen’s Parliament and others, an American cruise missile strike in Yemen on Dec. 17, 2009, killed 41 civillians, including 22 children and a dozen women. At least three more people were killed later after handling unexploded cluster munitions left from the strike.
-NYT

OT: My full condolences to the victims.

My cousin was on standby all night, the people respoible for this are sick and deserve to be hung for treason.

(Mar 23, 2017, 08:57 PM)Blurr Wrote: [ -> ]It is a crazy world that we all live in, seeing this happen is horrible and my thoughts go out to those who have lost their lives and were injured.

However no one can see a terrorist attack coming, it is something no one could predict to happen and is a horrible thought that someone would go out their way to make others suffer.

You're right about that. ...It's one of those things I think about often, seeing the sector I work in.
After the attacks in Paris, Belgium, Germany and Paris again, we've started working on crisis and calamity solution plans to make sure we know what to do when something like this happens in or near our work field in The Netherlands. I just hope that it never happens. We picked the class up again after the recent attacks in London.

My condolences to the family and friends of the victims and hoping the best for those that have been (badly) injured.

UK cops need more guns in my opinion. This could have been prevented and the officer could have survived otherwise, but no need going back on the past we'll never know.

RIP victims.

(Mar 23, 2017, 11:49 PM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ]UK cops need more guns in my opinion. This could have been prevented and the officer could have survived otherwise, but no need going back on the past we'll never know.

RIP victims.

Don't really think that would have solved much - And UK police are fine without them. They're trained in the art of deesculation for months, as opposed to the 2 weeks US police get. (at best.) US cops also kill many people relatively, whilst UK police kill tens a year. I think our current system is fine, if not one of the best. Just look at how many shootings we have a year, look at how many semi-automatic guns there are in the UK. (One study suggested one for every 5,000,000 citizens.) 

The UK is entirely different to the US,I don't see how introducing guns would solve anything. It may have stopped one officer from being killed (despite armed police being at the scene the whole time), but how many other people would die?

It 'works' in the US, and I fully understand why, but not in the UK.

(Mar 23, 2017, 09:08 PM)Vatipaa Wrote: [ -> ]Now in Finland, security measures have been intensified because of this terror attack. Police were patrolling yesterday with submachine guns in the airport.

We've had this in at least major UK airports for as long as I can remember really. Guessing you live near a smaller airport?

(Mar 24, 2017, 09:28 AM)Lods Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 23, 2017, 09:08 PM)Vatipaa Wrote: [ -> ]Now in Finland, security measures have been intensified because of this terror attack. Police were patrolling yesterday with submachine guns in the airport.

We've had this in at least major UK airports for as long as I can remember really. Guessing you live near a smaller airport?

Nope, Helsinki Vantaa airport, the main airport

(Mar 24, 2017, 02:26 AM)Jono Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 23, 2017, 11:49 PM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ]UK cops need more guns in my opinion. This could have been prevented and the officer could have survived otherwise, but no need going back on the past we'll never know.

RIP victims.

Don't really think that would have solved much - And UK police are fine without them. They're trained in the art of deesculation for months, as opposed to the 2 weeks US police get. (at best.) US cops also kill many people relatively, whilst UK police kill tens a year. I think our current system is fine, if not one of the best. Just look at how many shootings we have a year, look at how many semi-automatic guns there are in the UK. (One study suggested one for every 5,000,000 citizens.) 

The UK is entirely different to the US,I don't see how introducing guns would solve anything. It may have stopped one officer from being killed (despite armed police being at the scene the whole time), but how many other people would die?

It 'works' in the US, and I fully understand why, but not in the UK.

America is a police state. The police force there is a small military power at this rate. Besides, there are not a lot of gun owners in the UK, meaning that such police militarization is really not needed in the UK.  Also taking into account the amount of times police forces from the states have shot and killed suspects.

Events like this happen, and even if you tighten up security, police cannot be everywhere, and see everything.

I wish the best to everyone around the area where this occurred, or who had relatives there. However, it's not an uncommon event, we'll only see more of this as the world population grows, and people with radical ideas emerge. I also still find it slightly oversensitive. In some countries this is a daily occurrence, but it doesn't get covered, we are insensitive to other peoples grief, lose. Unless it strikes close to home, and of course media loves the drama.

Humans have always killed, and tried to convince others of their ideals by using violence. A pity.

(Mar 23, 2017, 06:09 PM)Lods Wrote: [ -> ]Was about 5 minute walk down the road when this happened, and was on the bridge myself about half an hour before the attack.

Was in a building that was semi-underground at the time so didn't realise what was going on, no signal on my phone or anything. I heard some sirens but not gunshots, just assumed it was regular London. Only when I came out and saw police, ambulances and helicopters, phone signal came back and I had missed calls from about 6 different family members that I realised what was going on. London wasn't on lockdown though. I managed to get out fine and without any issues, even traffic was normal surprisingly.

I feel very lucky to still be here. Thoughts to the the victims and their families, especially the French students. Their country has had enough as it is.

omg your lucky

(Mar 23, 2017, 11:49 PM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ]UK cops need more guns in my opinion. This could have been prevented and the officer could have survived otherwise, but no need going back on the past we'll never know.

RIP victims.

On US a guy with 16 years can buy gun right? On europe most of countries if not all u need to be 18 years old , need to pass for piscolagy test , police test and then after that u may receive license to buy gun , at least thats how works in Portugal , and people should be prepared because this will become more common , its human race vs human race , religions and things like that will create things like this more  often

It is horrible to know that people want to kill people.

However I was shown this picture.
https://media2.intoday.in/indiatoday/ima...013622.jpg

(Mar 23, 2017, 11:49 PM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ]UK cops need more guns in my opinion. This could have been prevented and the officer could have survived otherwise, but no need going back on the past we'll never know.

RIP victims.

We don't really but we do need more in this war of terror at the moment the UK has 600 armed officers.

The reason why no one wants to be one is because if you.

Touch your taser = Paperwork
Point your taser = Paperwork
Light+Laser = Paperwork
Discharging the taser = Paperwork

Using a baton gun = Paperwork

Pointing your semi-automatic weapon = Mass amounts of Paperwork
Firing your semi-automatic weapon = ALOT of Paperwork



If court decides what you did was wrong you can be locked up in the nick for alot of time.

Due to this hardly anyone wants to become a armed officer.

However to all those armed officers out there, they do their job well and as history has it sometimes they get things wrong and it turns pear shaped really quickly.

(Mar 23, 2017, 07:19 PM)Mr.Ranger Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 23, 2017, 07:03 PM)Eclipze Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 23, 2017, 06:51 PM)Lods Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 23, 2017, 06:38 PM)Eclipze Wrote: [ -> ]Its really horrible what happened but how can you call this an act of terrorism but call the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan an act of war?

-snip-

-snip-

They did not intend to kill innocents, as bad as it sounds, it's collateral damage nothing more.

Btw Bush is accused of war crimes, so is Tony Blair, there is still a petition to bring them both to justice in the haig.

Please tell me that you ARENT speaking about the US. Please.


please

(Mar 24, 2017, 11:52 AM)Daley Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 24, 2017, 02:26 AM)Jono Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 23, 2017, 11:49 PM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ]UK cops need more guns in my opinion. This could have been prevented and the officer could have survived otherwise, but no need going back on the past we'll never know.

RIP victims.

Don't really think that would have solved much - And UK police are fine without them. They're trained in the art of deesculation for months, as opposed to the 2 weeks US police get. (at best.) US cops also kill many people relatively, whilst UK police kill tens a year. I think our current system is fine, if not one of the best. Just look at how many shootings we have a year, look at how many semi-automatic guns there are in the UK. (One study suggested one for every 5,000,000 citizens.) 

The UK is entirely different to the US,I don't see how introducing guns would solve anything. It may have stopped one officer from being killed (despite armed police being at the scene the whole time), but how many other people would die?

It 'works' in the US, and I fully understand why, but not in the UK.

America is a police state. The police force there is a small military power at this rate. Besides, there are not a lot of gun owners in the UK, meaning that such police militarization is really not needed in the UK.  Also taking into account the amount of times police forces from the states have shot and killed suspects.

Events like this happen, and even if you tighten up security, police cannot be everywhere, and see everything.

I wish the best to everyone around the area where this occurred, or who had relatives there. However, it's not an uncommon event, we'll only see more of this as the world population grows, and people with radical ideas emerge. I also still find it slightly oversensitive. In some countries this is a daily occurrence, but it doesn't get covered, we are insensitive to other peoples grief, lose. Unless it strikes close to home, and of course media loves the drama.

Humans have always killed, and tried to convince others of their ideals by using violence. A pity.

Police state? You've got to be joking....



I agree that UK is different from the US, however if you want to go that far I really hope you were exaggerating, and I'm going to assume you are before I go into the effort for a reply.

Shit happens, what can ya do?