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Is this tos? - ItzAspire - Aug 27, 2018
Do you think having a joke on discord warrants game mode perm?
Joke in question was "ddos server".
If you perm everyone who has a giggle on discord then you'll lose even more players.
Let me know what you think
RE: Is this tos? - Night - Aug 27, 2018
You threatened a registered company with a DDoS attack. Joke or not, that's how it happened.
What did you expect would happen?
RE: Is this tos? - ItzAspire - Aug 27, 2018
(Aug 27, 2018, 09:34 PM)Nightmare Wrote: You threatened a registered company with a DDoS attack. Joke or not, that's how it happened.
What did you expect would happen?
Post the exact message.
Show me and everyone else the way it was said, it was obviously a joke.
RE: Is this tos? - ItzAspire - Aug 27, 2018
Tomasz Metusz Zalasiewicz would disagree.
RE: Is this tos? - Blunt Grunt - Aug 27, 2018
(Aug 27, 2018, 09:34 PM)Nightmare Wrote: You threatened a registered company with a DDoS attack. Joke or not, that's how it happened.
What did you expect would happen?
^ Its common knowledge that even joking you are going to DDoS a server is grounds for a ban. Its like that on just about any game/gamemode really.
RE: Is this tos? - ItzAspire - Aug 27, 2018
(Aug 27, 2018, 09:53 PM)Blunt Grunt Wrote:(Aug 27, 2018, 09:34 PM)Nightmare Wrote: You threatened a registered company with a DDoS attack. Joke or not, that's how it happened.
What did you expect would happen?
^ Its common knowledge that even joking you are going to DDoS a server is grounds for a ban. Its like that on just about any game/gamemode really.
But a perm shows a personal element.
RE: Is this tos? - Lewwings - Aug 27, 2018
(Aug 27, 2018, 09:44 PM)ItzAspire Wrote: Tomasz Metusz Zalasiewicz would disagree.
You mean Faustie?
RE: Is this tos? - Jen - Aug 27, 2018
DDoS Threats are serious issues with online businesses such as Limelight so due to such they will be treated as threats no matter if they are said in a joking manner or not.
Does it warrant an in-game ban?
Yes, it does, using Limelight's services means that you have read and accepted the TOS and as you were caught breaking TOS you were banned from the use of Limelight's services, as you broke the Acceptable use policy.
Was this justified?
In my opinion, it was, don't expect to make DDoS threats to a company and expect it to be taken as a joke.
RE: Is this tos? - Apex - Aug 27, 2018
This is exactly the same as going into to tesco and exclaiming you will be coming back in 1hr to firebomb the place.
And then being in shock and awe that you either get arrested or barred for life.
RE: Is this tos? - Nudel - Aug 27, 2018
Seems like someone is really mad about his ban.
RE: Is this tos? - Apex - Aug 27, 2018
(Aug 27, 2018, 10:16 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: Seems like someone is really mad about his ban.
>Inb4 next discussion post
"Should we change the TOS"
RE: Is this tos? - ItzAspire - Aug 27, 2018
(Aug 27, 2018, 10:07 PM)Stell90 Wrote: Stell90DDoS Threats are serious issues with online businesses such as Limelight so due to such they will be treated as threats no matter if they are said in a joking manner or not.
Does it warrant an in-game ban?
Yes, it does, using Limelight's services means that you have read and accepted the TOS and as you were caught breaking TOS you were banned from the use of Limelight's services, as you broke the Acceptable use policy.
Was this justified?
In my opinion, it was, don't expect to make DDoS threats to a company and expect it to be taken as a joke.
What you fail to point out is that you have let others get away with similar, so why am I instantly permed?
Also, your player base is dropping so perming people for jokes is not a good idea.
Your business is owned by :
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]Mr Mateusz Tomasz Zalasiewicz and [font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]Mr Christopher Robert Massey.[/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]The company made 4100 last year (this is what was declared), lying about earnings is tax evasion/fraud. [/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]Company address - [font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]181 Waterloo Road, Stoke-On-Trent, United Kingdom, ST6 2ER[/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]Just looked online at the revenue for last year.[/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]https://limelightgaming.net/services/membership/ [/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]This has a feature of the revenue per month and the last month.[/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]If you back a year on the page it doesn't add up to anything like 4100.[/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]Lying......................[/font][/font][/font]
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RE: Is this tos? - Lewwings - Aug 27, 2018
@Aspire
As friendly as I am with you, the Terms of Service of Limelight Gaming provides the following -
![[Image: c2A3ppH.png]](https://i.imgur.com/c2A3ppH.png)
Which does indeed mean it is ToS, whilst I understand that it may have been intended as a joke, DDoS is not only harmful to Limelight Gaming from a financial perspective (potential loss of donations) but also from a community perspective (as members have left in the past due to DDoS, no seriously).
It would be nice to extend the ToS to understand the intent of sarcasm or at least a extreme verbal warning for joking about such matters, as of now, the Limelight Gaming Terms of Services does prohibit such as statement.
I hope this answers your question.
RE: Is this tos? - Apex - Aug 27, 2018
(Aug 27, 2018, 10:16 PM)ItzAspire Wrote:Are we supposed to be impressed you can access public information, that is displayed in an easy to access format so you can read it?(Aug 27, 2018, 10:07 PM)Stell90 Wrote: Stell90DDoS Threats are serious issues with online businesses such as Limelight so due to such they will be treated as threats no matter if they are said in a joking manner or not.
Does it warrant an in-game ban?
Yes, it does, using Limelight's services means that you have read and accepted the TOS and as you were caught breaking TOS you were banned from the use of Limelight's services, as you broke the Acceptable use policy.
Was this justified?
In my opinion, it was, don't expect to make DDoS threats to a company and expect it to be taken as a joke.
What you fail to point out is that you have let others get away with similar, so why am I instantly permed?
Also, your player base is dropping so perming people for jokes is not a good idea.
Your business is owned by :
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]Mr Mateusz Tomasz Zalasiewicz and [font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]Mr Christopher Robert Massey.[/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]The company made 4100 last year (this is what was declared), lying about earnings is tax evasion/fraud. [/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]Company address - [font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]181 Waterloo Road, Stoke-On-Trent, United Kingdom, ST6 2ER[/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]Just looked online at the revenue for last year.[/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]https://limelightgaming.net/services/membership/ [/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]This has a feature of the revenue per month and the last month.[/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]If you back a year on the page it doesn't add up to anything like 4100.[/font][/font][/font]
[font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif][font=proxima_nova, Arial, sans-serif]Lying......................[/font][/font][/font]
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Also maybe leave the detective work to HM Rev & customs, you need a bit of the old grey matter for that is all.
RE: Is this tos? - Night - Aug 27, 2018
You can find the financial report published by Jono here: https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-19767.html
This details that we earned a net profit before tax of £4,133.60
May want to double check your numbers.