(Aug 23, 2015, 08:17 PM)Zzzzap link Wrote: [ -> ]>but who does so alone, outside of any command structure and without material assistance from any group
So you're disapproving your own point really. If he was a lone wolf, why would he go to Syria? And where would he get an AK47 from? This guy obviously is connected to a bigger network of terrorists in the middle east
He goes to Syria because he is:
Quote: in support of some group, movement, or ideology
He most likely got the gun from an international arms dealer.
I'm just saying what the research showed. It still uncertain whether it was organised by a terrorist organisation, however, it is being classed as a lone-wolf because not enough information is known.
(Aug 23, 2015, 08:50 PM)Lord Octagon link Wrote: [ -> ]He most likely got the gun from an international arms dealer.
Fucking lold, you are clueless
(Aug 23, 2015, 08:50 PM)Lord Octagon link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Zzzzap link=topic=1285.msg12253#msg12253 date=1440353866]
>but who does so alone, outside of any command structure and without material assistance from any group
So you're disapproving your own point really. If he was a lone wolf, why would he go to Syria? And where would he get an AK47 from? This guy obviously is connected to a bigger network of terrorists in the middle east
He goes to Syria because he is:
Quote: in support of some group, movement, or ideology
He most likely got the gun from an international arms dealer.
I'm just saying what the research showed. It still uncertain whether it was organised by a terrorist organisation, however, it is being classed as a lone-wolf because not enough information is known.
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You're an idiot. International Arms dealers...? You just refuse to admit Zzzap was right all along, and now you're making stuff up.
You taunted him with "
did you not even see the supporting articles?", trying to make him look like some sort of uneducated fuck spewing bullshit. We disproved you and now you're trying to play it off casually.
Good job turning this news thread into a discussion. We're not the kind of guys that don't do their research, but you just had to taunt.
Piss off please.
Man chill, I was just stating what I had read in supporting articles. No need to get worked up, you're taking it all too seriously.
(Aug 23, 2015, 09:44 PM)Lord Octagon link Wrote: [ -> ]Man chill, I was just stating what I had read in supporting articles. No need to get worked up, you're taking it all too seriously.
Of course we take it seriously, this is
serious shit.. You're the one to start a huge argument about it.
If the guy was on the radar then how the fuck could he enter a train to France with a fucking kalashnikov?! We all know it will happen again and again. This is what we get for helping people, Europe will be Islamicised by the muslims if nothing is done.
The European people needs to realise this, it needs to be stopped before it is too late.
(Aug 23, 2015, 04:38 PM)Aviator link Wrote: [ -> ][quote author=Nevill link=topic=1285.msg12161#msg12161 date=100]
terrorists aren't muslims ..
They're Islamist and take Islam to the extreme. Psychopaths more like; using Islam as a scapegoat for those reasons.
A huge thanks to the 3 individuals involved with stopping this attack, definitely heros in my eyes.
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The said about themselves, we are muslims, but they aren't, you know ISIS, Destroyed 4 mosques Of Muslims in 1 Year!, wtf?! why are they killing muslims if they are Islamic state?! If you live in the middle east, you will know everything, i know who is supports ISIS, and it's hard to say it here. so stop listening to the liar Media ..
I know some people, went to Syria * Real Jihad, not the Fake Jihad [ ISIS ] * to Helps Syrian Freedom Fighters, And killed by the syrian resistance. Turkish, Saudi Arabia, And Kuwait are Islamic Countries, But the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria are Still fighting them, and putting the bombs in themselves and killing the innocent people.
or you know what? just search in Youtube: ISIS Truth.
(Aug 27, 2015, 08:11 PM)Nevill link Wrote: [ -> ]The said about themselves, we are muslims, but they aren't, you know ISIS, Destroyed 4 mosques Of Muslims in 1 Year!, wtf?! why are they killing muslims if they are Islamic state?! If you live in the middle east, you will know everything, i know who is supports ISIS, and it's hard to say it here. so stop listening to the liar Media ..
I know some people, went to Syria * Real Jihad, not the Fake Jihad [ ISIS ] * to Helps Syrian Freedom Fighters, And killed by the syrian resistance. Turkish, Saudi Arabia, And Kuwait are Islamic Countries, But the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria are Still fighting them, and putting the bombs in themselves and killing the innocent people.
or you know what? just search in Youtube: ISIS Truth.
I'm well aware of the current state regarding IS (or ISIS). As you see in my post, I said Islam is used as a scapegoat for their disgusting 'caliphate'.
While there is media bias in the west and in actual fact quite blatant (especially with political alignment), I am able to draw my own thoughts and ideas; so trust me - I don't just absorb what the media tells me.
It would be hard pressed to call them Muslim, but they are a self proclaimed Islamic State; taking things to the extreme.
Dont see how it really matters where the attacker comes from. Sure a large portion of terrorist are muslims but some people in this thread use the following logic:
Most terrorists are muslim
Most Muslim are terrorists
And thats simply not how it works, im christian myself and i can easily say that i am not too proud either of the things that my religion brought in the past but you'll have to realize that these things have nothing to do with supporting a religion. This man uses religion as an excuse to press his own political views on the world, because you can be 100% sure that neither God, Allah, Jahwee or any other believe supports mass murder of innocent citizens.
Ontopic:
These 3 are damn heroes, they saved a lot of lives out there!
(Aug 28, 2015, 11:45 AM)Baskingner link Wrote: [ -> ]Dont see how it really matters where the attacker comes from. Sure a large portion of terrorist are muslims but some people in this thread use the following logic:
Most terrorists are muslim
Most Muslim are terrorists
And thats simply not how it works, im christian myself and i can easily say that i am not too proud either of the things that my religion brought in the past but you'll have to realize that these things have nothing to do with supporting a religion. This man uses religion as an excuse to press his own political views on the world, because you can be 100% sure that neither God, Allah, Jahwee or any other believe supports mass murder of innocent citizens.
Ontopic:
These 3 are damn heroes, they saved a lot of lives out there!
Exactly. Islam is a religion of around 1,570,000,000 people (1.57 billion) or just under a quarter of the world's population. They can't all be terrorists? It'd be ridiculous to say so.
(Aug 28, 2015, 11:45 AM)Baskingner link Wrote: [ -> ]Dont see how it really matters where the attacker comes from. Sure a large portion of terrorist are muslims but some people in this thread use the following logic:
Most terrorists are muslim
Most Muslim are terrorists
And thats simply not how it works, im christian myself and i can easily say that i am not too proud either of the things that my religion brought in the past but you'll have to realize that these things have nothing to do with supporting a religion. This man uses religion as an excuse to press his own political views on the world, because you can be 100% sure that neither God, Allah, Jahwee or any other believe supports mass murder of innocent citizens.
Ontopic:
These 3 are damn heroes, they saved a lot of lives out there!
Because it's always better to be precise, can't see what's the problem here.