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(Jun 4, 2020, 12:54 AM)Montyfatcat Wrote: [ -> ]Anyway, on track, what are y'all doing in place of what would be happening pre-covid?

Get drunk, what else is there to do. I would of done it at Notts pride parade so might as well do it at home.
(Jun 4, 2020, 12:54 AM)Montyfatcat Wrote: [ -> ]Anyway, on track, what are y'all doing in place of what would be happening pre-covid?

Going to be watching some shitty movies over Discord with my cousin and his boyfriend and having a few drinks. You got any plans yourself ?
(Jun 4, 2020, 12:01 AM)Project Wrote: [ -> ]I was wondering when ‍ would show up.

Because for Christianity celebrates that, it doesn't stop a group of people (LGBT+ people in this case) from celebrating another thing? Much like other religions are celebrating different things at same time.

Let people celebrate their freedoms much like you and I are able to without being looked down upon.

I'll focus on the homosexual side of things.

Equality means sameness, if two things are equal it means they are the same. Are same-sex relationships the same as - equal to - heterosexual ones. That's the question and I would say no. And it does have anything to do with values or morals, you don't have to think the homosexual act is sinful in order to see that the equality of these two is a nonsensical concept. These two things are different in a profoundly significant way.

The union of a man and a woman has in principle the potential to create - of itself - new life. The union of two people of the same gender does not ever have that potential, and never, and will never, and has never. Again, even if you think the two unions are morally equal, which is not a biblical thought but even if you think it, you cannot say they are equal in every respect because they are certainly not equal in this respect - a pretty important one. 

You have on one hand a thing, a heterosexual relationship, which can create people. On the other hand you have a thing, a homosexual union, which cannot create people. Now imagine for a second that you're starting a civilisation from scratch with no prior knowledge of marriage, politics, not even the Bible, and you see there are all types of relationships - but one kind of relationship has this unique ability and habit of creating new people. When you're trying to work out what to call all these relationships, don't you call that one something different? Something that signifies the incredible power and responsibility that comes with it?

This potential of the heterosexual union to create people is largely why marriage exists, and it's why society has cherished and protected this institution because it understood that a union which might create a person should be stable, it should be permanent, it should be protected, it should be faithful, it should be monogamous. Every study has shown that children fair much better in stable two-parent households than not. So marriage exists as the foundation of the family unit, and the family unit exists as the foundation for civilisation. 

If marriages are strong, the family is strong. If the family is strong, society is strong. It's that simple. Historically, one of the most crucial and elemental functions of marriage was to create the basis upon which - and the context within which - children are created, and born, and raised.

Homosexual relationships should not be normalised for this reason. It is disordered and detracts from the purpose of an intimate relationship, that is to create new life.
(Jun 4, 2020, 01:34 AM)Ben Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jun 4, 2020, 12:54 AM)Montyfatcat Wrote: [ -> ]Anyway, on track, what are y'all doing in place of what would be happening pre-covid?

Going to be watching some shitty movies over Discord with my cousin and his boyfriend and having a few drinks. You got any plans yourself ?

Mostly just share rainbow stuff, cringe at adverts that are obviously pandering and then spend the rest of the time either arguing or playing games.
(Jun 4, 2020, 01:37 AM)Lord Octagon Wrote: [ -> ]This potential of the heterosexual union to create people is largely why marriage exists, and it's why society has cherished and protected this institution because it understood that a union which might create a person should be stable, it should be permanent, it should be protected, it should be faithful, it should be monogamous. Every study has shown that children fair much better in stable two-parent households than not. So marriage exists as the foundation of the family unit, and the family unit exists as the foundation for civilisation. 

If marriages are strong, the family is strong. If the family is strong, society is strong. It's that simple. Historically, one of the most crucial and elemental functions of marriage was to create the basis upon which - and the context within which - children are created, and born, and raised.

Homosexual relationships should not be normalised for this reason. It is disordered and detracts from the purpose of an intimate relationship, that is to create new life.

The problem with that is that not all straight marriages are perfect. There's many kids who are abandoned or put up for adoption for multiple reasons. There's many gay couples who are able to offer these kids a much better life. 

Life is not all about marriage and a family, it's more about finding yourself and living the happiest life your way, there's no need to set borders. Is it really living if you fake your feelings just so you can reproduce? Let people be who they want to be, normalise gay couples. If the bond is strong, the children will live a happy life no matter what the parents are.
happy pride month all!!! <3
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Here we go again
You know I’ve really only read the first three pages of this but..

Idk why anyone has an issue with people celebrating their pride for a month. Like I get it, our veterans deserve more time, I agree, so let’s do something about it. 

But honestly,
If you’re homosexual and you’re proud, celebrate that shit.
If you’re transgender and you’re proud, celebrate that shit.
If you’re bisexual and you’re proud, celebrate that shit.
If you’re heterosexual and you’re proud, celebrate that shit.
If you sexually identify as any category I may have missed, and you’re proud, celebrate that shit.

I’m honestly done with the negativity right now, be proud in who you are, there’s nothing wrong with that.
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I think we're doing just fine with the heterosexuals procreating along with a great LGBTQ+ community all around the world but okay it is wrong because they can't make da babbies instead of adopting and giving children a better life than rather being put into Government Care with the bare necessities without love. Damn the world is gonna collapse into an ever decreasing population and eventually collapse because two men, women or any sexuality different than that of heterosexual love each other very much and want to spend their lives together because they know they'll be lovers and best friends for life.

Getting pretty sick of having to argue on a Gaming Community. Gonna do it anyway because people deserve to be accepted. Imo acceptance is the key to freedom.
for real. my fiancé and i have already agreed that when we’re financially stable and move out of our apartment, we’re going to adopt. instead of bringing a new child into the world, we’re going to adopt a child whose parents abandoned them and give them a home and a loving family. why is that a bad thing?
(Jun 4, 2020, 06:36 PM)Jeff Ford Wrote: [ -> ]-snip-

Lad, across the developed world countries have birth rates below the needed replacement value. This leads to economic and social problems due to an imbalance in youth to elderly. This rapidly decreasing birth rate has the UN projecting us losing 1 billion people every 20 years by the turn of the century.

(Jun 5, 2020, 01:45 AM)Lord Octagon Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jun 4, 2020, 06:36 PM)Jeff Ford Wrote: [ -> ]-snip-

Lad, across the developed world countries have birth rates below the needed replacement value. This leads to economic and social problems due to an imbalance in youth to elderly. This rapidly decreasing birth rate has the UN projecting us losing 1 billion people every 20 years by the turn of the century.


I might be going a bit off-topic and into an argument, but this has probably something to do with people caring more about who can be with who so much, that they don't care about the future generation to enact laws that would provide a sustainable economy, education and environment. You would not believe how many people are afraid to procreate because they cant afford it. But the again, judging the LGBT community because it can't bring children to life (although a lot of them choose to adopt) is more important that providing help to them so they can help lighten the load of the foster care/adoption system.
(Jun 5, 2020, 01:45 AM)Lord Octagon Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jun 4, 2020, 06:36 PM)Jeff Ford Wrote: [ -> ]-snip-

Lad, across the developed world countries have birth rates below the needed replacement value. This leads to economic and social problems due to an imbalance in youth to elderly. This rapidly decreasing birth rate has the UN projecting us losing 1 billion people every 20 years by the turn of the century.


This isn’t due to LGBT though. You get women are going for careers rather than kids. Would you rather have a kid at 20-25 or actually work towards a career?

Edit: Why do we even need to “replace” people? World has enough people with limited resources as it is.
(Jun 5, 2020, 09:43 AM)Brin. Wrote: [ -> ]Would you rather have a kid at 20-25 or actually work towards a career?

Or you know, both. Also overpopulation is a myth. Like I said, economic and social problems sprout from a lack of replacement. Also, civilisations became prosperous as its population grew.
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(Jun 5, 2020, 01:59 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jun 5, 2020, 09:43 AM)Brin. Wrote: [ -> ]Would you rather have a kid at 20-25 or actually work towards a career?

Or you know, both. Also overpopulation is a myth. Like I said, economic and social problems sprout from a lack of replacement. Also, civilisations became prosperous as its population grew.
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Whatever fits your narrative.
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