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Soviethooves

Apr 22, 2018, 06:34 PM
(Apr 22, 2018, 05:22 PM)Pufitee Wrote: [ -> ]wow so many ppl commented on my wonderful post!!!

i have a few more

1. can you make the move theater into a gunshop?

It would be weird, but sure.

2. can u build bases out of the map eg theres a traincar going into the cave and in that cave there is a base

You can, but it’s frowned upon for it to be soley for basing with contraband.

3. if you torture someone would they eventually have to give you answers?

Nope.

4. if u see ur friend gettin arrested would you be allowed to pop a few caps in the cops with a sniper rife 

If you can clearly ID that he is getting arrested, then yes. An example being putting handcuffs on your friend. Even though being detained doesn’t mean you’re getting arrested, it’s a sure sign of it possibly happening.

5. what does the stolen police uniform, prisoner uniform and the tazer stuff value at?

Your choice. It’s a player made item, so you call what it’s priced as.

6. how loud is the contra sound (how far away do you have to be to not hear it)

An example can be Fiddlers Green. Outside one of the apartments you can’t hear contraband, but if you enter the apartment you can hear it.

thats it for now.
more to come!!!

Taylor

Apr 22, 2018, 06:41 PM
(Apr 22, 2018, 05:22 PM)Pufitee Wrote: [ -> ]wow so many ppl commented on my wonderful post!!!

i have a few more

1. can you make the move theater into a gunshop?

If that's what floats your boat go for it

2. can u build bases out of the map eg theres a traincar going into the cave and in that cave there is a base

With staff approval, yes

3. if you torture someone would they eventually have to give you answers?

No, as you have no way of knowing if it is true or not. This is one of the many complicated examples of FearRP

4. if u see ur friend gettin arrested would you be allowed to pop a few caps in the cops with a sniper rife 

It should be avoided at all costs, and if you're looking at someone with a rifle you won't know if they are being arrested or simply detained, they are NOT the same thing.

5. what does the stolen police uniform, prisoner uniform and the tazer stuff value at?

Uniforms 20-60k I believe, taser equipment I haven't a clue.

6. how loud is the contra sound (how far away do you have to be to not hear it)

It doesn't matter as I believe raiding because you can hear contra is metagaming, but it is heavily dependent on where you are, it can go through some walls but not through others.
thats it for now.
more to come!!!

Soviethooves

Apr 22, 2018, 07:57 PM
Hearing contraband is probable cause to search if the property owner is noncompliant as it’s one of the few sounds in the game that is mechanical. The same reasoning is allowed for Meth labs, but NOT UV Lights as they’re not illegal by themselves.

Haamster

Apr 23, 2018, 02:43 AM
Quote:1. can you make the move theater into a gunshop?

Assuming you cover everything up and don't leave any traces of it being a movie theatre I don't see a problem with it. Just setting up shop with the stuff already in there wouldn't make much sense though.



Quote:2. can u build bases out of the map eg theres a traincar going into the cave and in that cave there is a base
Yes. Just make sure you have keypads/buttons so people can enter/leave. And contraband is frowned upon/banned if I'm not mistaken (don't quote me on that though).
See rule 8.7 - "You can make bases/dupes outside the map, as long as they remain accessible and follow all other prop and base rules. You are not allowed, however, to have weed/contraband/meth labs/medkit labs/etc. inside these bases."


Quote:3. if you torture someone would they eventually have to give you answers?
Depends on their character traits. But just like in real life, where the practice has been proven to be ineffective, I wouldn't see a reason for it to be 100% effective, since it simply is not.
So no, nothing would force them from a rule/gameplay perspective to tell you anything.


Quote:4. if u see ur friend gettin arrested would you be allowed to pop a few caps in the cops with a sniper rife 
That completely depends on your character history and associations.
If you're part of the mob and the cops are trying to visibly arrest the don, then some resistance is to be expected. Straight-up RDMing the cops, especially if you're not sure about if they're actually arresting the person or not though, could easily get you into trouble.
I'll be content with saying that as long as you have a valid RP reason for protecting the person who is being arrested at all cost, then you may use force to help the person.

In other words, don't meta-game. You can't come to the rescue of your Steam buddy when he's being arrested just because he asked you to.


Quote:5. what does the stolen police uniform, prisoner uniform and the tazer stuff value at?
It's a free-market man.
In other words, there is no standard price, people are free to charge whatever they want and people may choose whether you wish to buy it or not.

See: Supply-Demand.


Quote:6. how loud is the contra sound (how far away do you have to be to not hear it)
I'm not sure what the exact unit length is, but between finger and thumb I'd say about 2-5 tesla car lengths worth. (Remember that units are measured in distance, so height is a part of the equation. Thus, higher up from the ground = longer distance.)

greg

Apr 28, 2018, 09:30 AM
mooching off this thread again cuz i got mad questions yo

1. can i arrest people as a corrupt cop for things like speeding or something

2. do i need a warrant to raid as a corrupt cop, maybe to keep it off the books or somethin

3. say for instance i am a lawn care worker right (juanito's lawn care) and our main tool is shovels, and then the president bans shovels. can we raid the pres cuz he made a law that directly impacted our roleplay??

Vadar

Apr 28, 2018, 10:06 AM
1. Yep, That would be fine.

2. Regards to OOC log checking etc. you still need to process warrants for those. You can however stretch truth on warranting reasons though if you are corrupt.

3. If RP'd correctly then sure I don't see a reason not to. Obviously if he bans shovels then you immediately pull out a sniper and shoot him then that's extreme. Build up the RP contact him, make warnings etc etc.


As always staff decision is final but that's my view on those 3 points.

Taylor

Apr 28, 2018, 10:52 AM
(Apr 28, 2018, 09:30 AM)lad Wrote: [ -> ]mooching off this thread again cuz i got mad questions yo

1. can i arrest people as a corrupt cop for things like speeding or something

Yes

2. do i need a warrant to raid as a corrupt cop, maybe to keep it off the books or somethin

Yes, you always need a warrant to raid - it doesn't have to be 100% truthful reasoning though

3. say for instance i am a lawn care worker right (juanito's lawn care) and our main tool is shovels, and then the president bans shovels. can we raid the pres cuz he made a law that directly impacted our roleplay??

I would say no as that RP is passive

greg

Apr 28, 2018, 05:01 PM
thnx lads !

Haamster

Apr 29, 2018, 09:02 AM
(Apr 28, 2018, 10:52 AM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]
(Apr 28, 2018, 09:30 AM)lad Wrote: [ -> ]-snip

2. do i need a warrant to raid as a corrupt cop, maybe to keep it off the books or somethin

Yes, you always need a warrant to raid - it doesn't have to be 100% truthful reasoning though

-snip-

This is wrong.

To clarify, you don't always need a warrant. Example: there is an active shooter in the building and you don't have time to apply for a warrant due to endangerment of life.
Essentially, only "passive" raids need a warrant. (ordered raids, contraband/illegal or stolen item searches, non-violent hostage situations, etc. etc.)


Full answers:

Quote:1. can i arrest people as a corrupt cop for things like speeding or something
Not really, no. Seeing as an arrest wouldn't be especially beneficial to a corrupt officer in such a situation. (You would have to explain why you arrested a person for speeding.)

It would be better to keep it off any public records, so feel free to extort someone for running 1mph over the speed limit though!



Quote:3. say for instance i am a lawn care worker right (juanito's lawn care) and our main tool is shovels, and then the president bans shovels. can we raid the pres cuz he made a law that directly impacted our roleplay??

Yes, sort of. Don't immediately arm up with automatic rifles and storm the town hall. Try to communicate and/or protest as a first step, violence isn't the goal a gardener should have.

Soviethooves

Apr 29, 2018, 09:11 AM
You can arrest for petty reasons if RPing as corrupt. It’s up to the President, CP, or Police Chief to notice this and choose to approve or deny the warrant.

Haamster

Apr 29, 2018, 09:18 AM
(Apr 29, 2018, 09:11 AM)Gungranny Wrote: [ -> ]You can arrest for petty reasons if RPing as corrupt. It’s up to the President, CP, or Police Chief to notice this and choose to approve or deny the warrant.

Sure, there's no rule regarding what constitutes an "acceptable" arrest, I'm just saying that arresting someone for such a petty crime, without a personal vendetta or motive behind it, is sure to backfire in the form of a demotion.

I would almost say it constitutes FailRP, as most corrupt officers tend to not arrest people, rather than randomly trying to arrest people.


Personally I really wish that corrupt police RP would be improved, since it generally just seems like a way for people to minge about instead of actually doing realistic corrupt things. (Helping the mob, extorting local businesses, etc.)
Essentially, a corrupt officer wants to gain money or power, preferably both.
I don't see how arresting someone for speeding gives the corrupt officer either.

Taylor

Apr 29, 2018, 10:46 AM
(Apr 29, 2018, 09:18 AM)Haamster Wrote: [ -> ]
(Apr 29, 2018, 09:11 AM)Gungranny Wrote: [ -> ]You can arrest for petty reasons if RPing as corrupt. It’s up to the President, CP, or Police Chief to notice this and choose to approve or deny the warrant.

Sure, there's no rule regarding what constitutes an "acceptable" arrest, I'm just saying that arresting someone for such a petty crime, without a personal vendetta or motive behind it, is sure to backfire in the form of a demotion.

I would almost say it constitutes FailRP, as most corrupt officers tend to not arrest people, rather than randomly trying to arrest people.


Personally I really wish that corrupt police RP would be improved, since it generally just seems like a way for people to minge about instead of actually doing realistic corrupt things. (Helping the mob, extorting local businesses, etc.)
Essentially, a corrupt officer wants to gain money or power, preferably both.
I don't see how arresting someone for speeding gives the corrupt officer either.

Random example:

If I'm corrupt and some guy banged my girl, he could be jaywalking but imam pretend he stabbed someone you feel me?

There are multiple reasons as to why a corrupt officer would make an arrest for a petty reason

Haamster

May 1, 2018, 05:02 AM
(Apr 29, 2018, 10:46 AM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]
(Apr 29, 2018, 09:18 AM)Haamster Wrote: [ -> ]
(Apr 29, 2018, 09:11 AM)Gungranny Wrote: [ -> ]You can arrest for petty reasons if RPing as corrupt. It’s up to the President, CP, or Police Chief to notice this and choose to approve or deny the warrant.

Sure, there's no rule regarding what constitutes an "acceptable" arrest, I'm just saying that arresting someone for such a petty crime, without a personal vendetta or motive behind it, is sure to backfire in the form of a demotion.

I would almost say it constitutes FailRP, as most corrupt officers tend to not arrest people, rather than randomly trying to arrest people.


Personally I really wish that corrupt police RP would be improved, since it generally just seems like a way for people to minge about instead of actually doing realistic corrupt things. (Helping the mob, extorting local businesses, etc.)
Essentially, a corrupt officer wants to gain money or power, preferably both.
I don't see how arresting someone for speeding gives the corrupt officer either.

Random example:

If I'm corrupt and some guy banged my girl, he could be jaywalking but imam pretend he stabbed someone you feel me?

There are multiple reasons as to why a corrupt officer would make an arrest for a petty reason

That could be considered forced ERP and is not somethingh you have to deal with.
Should someone threaten you in such a way, feel free to make a PR.

Taylor

May 1, 2018, 08:31 AM
(May 1, 2018, 05:02 AM)Haamster Wrote: [ -> ]
(Apr 29, 2018, 10:46 AM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]
(Apr 29, 2018, 09:18 AM)Haamster Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, there's no rule regarding what constitutes an "acceptable" arrest, I'm just saying that arresting someone for such a petty crime, without a personal vendetta or motive behind it, is sure to backfire in the form of a demotion.

I would almost say it constitutes FailRP, as most corrupt officers tend to not arrest people, rather than randomly trying to arrest people.


Personally I really wish that corrupt police RP would be improved, since it generally just seems like a way for people to minge about instead of actually doing realistic corrupt things. (Helping the mob, extorting local businesses, etc.)
Essentially, a corrupt officer wants to gain money or power, preferably both.
I don't see how arresting someone for speeding gives the corrupt officer either.

Random example:

If I'm corrupt and some guy banged my girl, he could be jaywalking but imam pretend he stabbed someone you feel me?

There are multiple reasons as to why a corrupt officer would make an arrest for a petty reason

That could be considered forced ERP and is not somethingh you have to deal with.
Should someone threaten you in such a way, feel free to make a PR.

What good stuff are you smoking, if your girlfriend WILLINGLY had intercourse with another man any  sane being would a) kick the shit out of the guy and b) if they had any sort of power, use it against them.

greg

May 12, 2018, 09:19 PM
i got questions

why cant i run people over in self defence? its realistic :
evidence: https://youtu.be/oBG6uajkd8I?t=1m18s

also if i rp as a racist group, can i kill a person who i dont like (if i hate black people, can i kill people/kidnap people who have black playermodels?)
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