(Mar 5, 2018, 08:20 AM)Porg Wrote: [ -> ] So chances are If I'm dealing with something (another @ usually) and a less important @ comes in that could be dealt with later or perhaps even a PR chances are I'll ignore it.
The problem with this is almost any call can be dealt with in a PR. If there is evidence of a rule break, whether game breaking or not, it can be settled in a PR. Ignoring an @ call just because it isn't important in the grand scheme of things is not beneficial to anyone besides yourself. Obviously, someone prop smashing the whole server takes precedence over an RDM, but designating a rule breakage as of lesser importance devalues a rule.
I think you're jumping from one to 100
I didn't say if it's worthy of a PR I ignore it all together I meant it as a classification if I'm already on something else. And then I would usually move on to a less important call after
(Mar 5, 2018, 11:24 PM)Porg Wrote: [ -> ]I think you're jumping from one to 100
I didn't say if it's worthy of a PR I ignore it all together I meant it as a classification if I'm already on something else. And then I would usually move on to a less important call after
Better to jump from one to 100 here and get the full understanding than jump from one to 100 in a more serious thread (courthouse as an example). Going to the extreme is good for things like this to fully understand ideas.
(Mar 6, 2018, 12:15 AM)Hungames Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 5, 2018, 11:24 PM)Porg Wrote: [ -> ]I think you're jumping from one to 100
I didn't say if it's worthy of a PR I ignore it all together I meant it as a classification if I'm already on something else. And then I would usually move on to a less important call after
Better to jump from one to 100 here and get the full understanding than jump from one to 100 in a more serious thread (courthouse as an example). Going to the extreme is good for things like this to fully understand ideas.
Eh I'll give you that, fair point.
As a staff member myself, I like to believe that I have never mistreated someone because of what I think of them, I always valued staying impartial and acted the same manner to everyone around me. First of all, what I'm going to say is not only about this situation, this thread, this post but throughout my time here and these comments are not directed to anyone specifically.
The community, might see bias as a lone problem but I think it aligns with toxicity. The more toxicity there is, the more bias is thought to be existent. I can see that people in this thread care about the community, as well as people in other threads that bring problems up as you wouldn't bother if you didn't care except the ones that are at times making questionable posts that might only be posted to try and stir stuff or gain attention. There are a lot of ways to handle it, I've face palmed on actions taken by both sides, I've face palmed on actions taken by both sides while I was a veteran. The main reason I wanted to return to the team was to assist in decreasing the toxicity. You might say what does toxicity have anything to do with bias, and let me tell you, it has everything.
When a player makes a post or an action that is against the rules, staff deals with it. That's why we exist, but we also live in 2018 and for years people have gotten more and more self-centered. When a staff member punishes you for something, it's not because we are bias towards you, it's because you've done something that does NOT align with the rules. After the punishment, maybe a several more, with the growing number of toxic posts, jabs at staff people start to believe that they are targeted even more. The only reason you are being punished is because of your decisions, not because the staff member hates you. We are a team, and as much as we work together, we discuss and we at times argue. We talk to each other about the decisions made, HR especially does this.
The toxicity aligns with "bias" because the more toxic a person gets, the more punishment the person receives and in the end the more it is thought to be "bias". The world doesn't revolve around you, we have better things to do than spend our times waiting for a mistake to punish you. I'm sorry but that's how it is. Again, if you get punished, it is due to an action you decided to take.
Some of you, seem to believe it is cool to point out problems where none exist, sometimes there are reports both in-game and on the forums that just look off. By off I mean, there is nothing wrong with what has been done but if one wants to see it that way, one does and if the staff point that out, staff is at fault again. When actions that favor you are done, we are not at fault but if we decide on something that is not in your favor, we somehow have a bullseye on our chest.
The current way "bias" is thrown is not doing the community any favor, it isn't constructive and it does not help bring a solution or improve the state of the community (except some suggested solutions). I can tell you from where I stand, I do not support or accept bias actions, neither does the other staff members and we've made sure it's not a real threat to the community's well being. It's important for the staff team that the community works well and we make our community members happy and we care as much as you if not more. I've myself have given hours to the community in-game and out of it, so have other members. We have devoted a lot of time and we definitely wouldn't want "bias" to effect the community we have spent hours for.
(Mar 6, 2018, 04:59 PM)IVNT Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 5, 2018, 11:24 PM)Porg Wrote: [ -> ]-snip-
Hm?
Quote:or perhaps even a PR chances are I'll ignore it.
(Mar 5, 2018, 08:20 AM)Porg Wrote: [ -> ]So chances are If I'm dealing with something (another @ usually) and a less important @ comes in that could be dealt with later or perhaps even a PR chances are I'll ignore it.
It's not a case of "ignoring @ calls because they can be PR'd."
It's a case of "ignoring less important @ calls because I'm already on an @ call."
Good job ignoring all context that came with the post though.
(Mar 6, 2018, 06:31 PM)Enzyme Wrote: [ -> ]-something about not being appreciated enough-
bet you dont even thank bin men every morning they collect your trash for doing their job, either
(Mar 7, 2018, 05:23 PM)Tails Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 6, 2018, 06:31 PM)Enzyme Wrote: [ -> ]-something about not being appreciated enough-
bet you dont even thank bin men every morning they collect your trash for doing their job, either
Except they get paid and admins don't? Even devs get on average a lower hourly rate than garbage men, so we're sure as hell not doing this for the money. Respect is the least they deserve for putting up the shit that they have to and you seem to be enough proof for that argument.
Seriously though, why are you even here? Does this get you off or are you trying to avenge your 15 year old martyr?
(Mar 7, 2018, 06:17 PM)Noble Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 7, 2018, 05:23 PM)Tails Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 6, 2018, 06:31 PM)Enzyme Wrote: [ -> ]-something about not being appreciated enough-
bet you dont even thank bin men every morning they collect your trash for doing their job, either
Seriously though, why are you even here?
Lol just to get reactions like that, it's the reason I get out of bed in the morning
(Mar 7, 2018, 07:13 PM)Tails Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 7, 2018, 06:17 PM)Noble Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 7, 2018, 05:23 PM)Tails Wrote: [ -> ]bet you dont even thank bin men every morning they collect your trash for doing their job, either
Seriously though, why are you even here?
Lol just to get reactions like that, it's the reason I get out of bed in the morning
Kinda a sad existence if you ask me, and I'm keeping it pretty tame.
It was a valid questions though as you've admitted that you're not here for the community or the majority of people here. Want to know why I'm here?
- To make cool shit
- Create things that players can enjoy and interact with
- Brighten the future for Limelight
Notice how none of that even remotely aligns to your reason? I can say pretty confidently that I'm here for the right reasons. Notice how your respect isn't on that list? It's because I'm not here discussing this to earn or force your respect. The staff that haven't blasted you like they could have definitely deserve that respect though as they aren't compensated in anyway to deal with those who act like you.
Want people to take you and your opinions seriously? Start acting like an adult more than the kid you idolize. I promise you that the moment you do I'll be the first here to recognize it. Acting like an adult can be tough but I promise life is a lot easier when you do.
(Mar 7, 2018, 07:28 PM)Noble Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 7, 2018, 07:13 PM)Tails Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 7, 2018, 06:17 PM)Noble Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously though, why are you even here?
Lol just to get reactions like that, it's the reason I get out of bed in the morning
Kinda a sad existence if you ask me, and I'm keeping it pretty tame.
It was a valid questions though as you've admitted that you're not here for the community or the majority of people here. Want to know why I'm here?
- To make cool shit
- Create things that players can enjoy and interact with
- Brighten the future for Limelight
Notice how none of that even remotely aligns to your reason? I can say pretty confidently that I'm here for the right reasons. Notice how your respect isn't on that list? It's because I'm not here discussing this to earn or force your respect. The staff that haven't blasted you like they could have definitely deserve that respect though as they aren't compensated in anyway to deal with those who act like you.
Want people to take you and your opinions seriously? Start acting like an adult more than the kid you idolize. I promise you that the moment you do I'll be the first here to recognize it. Acting like an adult can be tough but I promise life is a lot easier when you do.
Why do you have to be so agressive, no negative. He can act like a kid if he wants and you have NO right to tell him to act his age, its a shit move and makes you look like a inconsiderate man. People can act how they wish to act so don't come here acting all big because your older than him...
(Mar 7, 2018, 07:46 PM)IVNT Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 7, 2018, 07:28 PM)Noble Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 7, 2018, 07:13 PM)Tails Wrote: [ -> ]Lol just to get reactions like that, it's the reason I get out of bed in the morning
Kinda a sad existence if you ask me, and I'm keeping it pretty tame.
It was a valid questions though as you've admitted that you're not here for the community or the majority of people here. Want to know why I'm here?
- To make cool shit
- Create things that players can enjoy and interact with
- Brighten the future for Limelight
Notice how none of that even remotely aligns to your reason? I can say pretty confidently that I'm here for the right reasons. Notice how your respect isn't on that list? It's because I'm not here discussing this to earn or force your respect. The staff that haven't blasted you like they could have definitely deserve that respect though as they aren't compensated in anyway to deal with those who act like you.
Want people to take you and your opinions seriously? Start acting like an adult more than the kid you idolize. I promise you that the moment you do I'll be the first here to recognize it. Acting like an adult can be tough but I promise life is a lot easier when you do.
Why do you have to be so agressive, no negative. He can act like a kid if he wants and you have NO right to tell him to act his age, its a shit move and makes you look like a inconsiderate man. People can act how they wish to act so don't come here acting all big because your older than him...
If you can't conduct yourself in a mature manner you shouldn't be here, simple as that. If you want to minge about and act like a 5 year old DarkRP is always available to you. His actions have shown that he can't and I would expect better from someone his age.
Now you're going to try to call me out for being aggressive and negative? That's the pot calling the kettle black. I've spent countless hours dedicating my time to create things for players to enjoy, what about you? I'm going to call out players that act like minges just as I've called you out before.
Admins have given you the leniency and benefit of the doubt to act immature, attempt to ruin the fun for others, and dance along the edges of the rules but you won't get that from me. You have no rights, play nice.