Name of Player: [L²:RP] Vadar & Rick The Slave <3
SteamID:
[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][L²:RP] Vadar STEAM_0:1:5670199[/font]
[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]Rick The Slave <3 STEAM_0:0:220333750[/font]
Server: EU Limelight
Time: (In UTC+0) Around midnight, however, the situation lasted about an hour.
Summary: Give us context and what rules they broke.
FearRP by both players,
I have a suspicion of Meta game
and potential RDM by Vadar.
Evidence:
Here we can see Vadar breaking FearRP while driving away in the vehicle even though I had my weapon pointed directly at him.
https://plays.tv/video/5977e256b452908704/vader-1
https://plays.tv/video/5977e38867f1fbc5a7/context
What followed was a car chase between us and a black car, however, we were pulling over this car as it had a similar colour and make to the car we were chasing. Mistakes could have been made when the officer was describing said car. That being said in this video we can see that I am ordering Rick out of the car, however, he broke FearRP. I'm pretty patient so decided to wait for a little however doing this Vadar came up behind me and killed me. In my opinion, Rick and Vadar were collaborating in the fact Rick broke fearRP for Vadar to come and kill me. I am aware that these two were in collaborations as Vadar gets into his car after killing me.
https://plays.tv/video/5977e5f499aaec2650/vader-3
In this video, we can see that he Failed to RP when I attempted to drag him multiple times.
https://plays.tv/video/5977e6c30b45efc084/vader-4
Thank you for your player-report, Marvin Hampton.
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Meanwhile, the accused player and witnesses may reply to this report.
-Witness/Involved-
I was one of the individuals who Vadar was after and I have evidence of a situation where I drove past Vadar after the president called in that shots were being fired within the city. The president advised of a masked man being in the area and as I was driving down Mainstreet towards Back Street I passed Vadar. While he states my lights were on only my headlights were on the entire time but I didn't even notice him until after passing him and this is heard over the radio. Before I could even drive around the corner I had a round go through my back window killing me. My concerns are how he knew it was me in only a few seconds passing without using the name on my car (he states he recognized the car but there are plenty of players using the same pursuit car) and why he is walking down the street with a gun drawn.
https://youtu.be/OsGqfWbpzMA
Situation starts around 9 minutes to 9 minutes 20 seconds and ends at the end of the video.
Hello,
Now theres alot to go through regarding this whole scene that lasted around an hour so i will keep it nice and sweet.
Regarding PMing you last night on the end of this video i said "Unknown" Metagame/Powergamed twice. This should give some more proof regarding that (https://plays.tv/video/5977e6c30b45efc084/vader-4). This also shows Unknown as a cop moments before the president being shot : https://i.imgur.com/oWJjkPG.jpg
(https://youtu.be/OsGqfWbp...e=youtu.be) To do with this one Pilot, You were the only police officer driving around in a Dodge Charger on the entire police force. I recognised your car and hence opened fire. Relating to RP reason behind this due to what happened in the garage i said something similar to "Im coming for you 1512 and 1513".
(https://plays.tv/video/5977e5f499aaec2650/vader-3) Regarding Roleplay as i said above i said i was coming for the both of you. What Rick did is none of my responsibility or anything to do with me you will have to take that up with him.
(https://plays.tv/video/5977e256b452908704/vader-1) Regarding this one, Yes by the looks of it I did break fearrp as your gun was out. Hands up to that one.
For the summary of the entire roleplay. I did state i would seek revenge on those officers and also the president for not doing anything about it (How survived those two attacks is somehow beyond me - Very lucky). The reparation actions that followed were indeed deemed fit for the reasoning behind them.
Thanks,
Vadar.
(Jul 26, 2017, 02:11 PM)Vadar Wrote: [ -> ]Hello,
Now theres alot to go through regarding this whole scene that lasted around an hour so i will keep it nice and sweet.
Regarding PMing you last night on the end of this video i said "Unknown" Metagame/Powergamed twice. This should give some more proof regarding that (https://plays.tv/video/5977e6c30b45efc084/vader-4). This also shows Unknown as a cop moments before the president being shot : https://i.imgur.com/oWJjkPG.jpg
Unknown may, or may not have Powergamed, however, I nor did pilot have any communication with him regarding him changing as a paramedic. This was completely his decision, also he did seem to stay as Paramedic for the entire time after this even when we needed more people in the Gunfight.
(https://youtu.be/OsGqfWbp...e=youtu.be) To do with this one Pilot, You were the only police officer driving around in a Dodge Charger on the entire police force. I recognised your car and hence opened fire. Relating to RP reason behind this due to what happened in the garage i said something similar to "Im coming for you 1512 and 1513".
You would not have known this was him, in character plenty of people could have been driving that police car you killing him shows you meta gamed. In character you would not have been fully aware that it was him therefore killing him was invalid before being 100% certain.
(https://plays.tv/video/5977e5f499aaec2650/vader-3) Regarding Roleplay as i said above i said i was coming for the both of you. What Rick did is none of my responsibility or anything to do with me you will have to take that up with him.
You killing me, I'm not 100% sure but it might be valid for you to do so yes, however it is the way in which it happened. You just happened to be in that very area with a gun out, in public, when he was under FearRP. Also, you must have been aware he was under FearRp therefore killing me in that moment is invalid. I had a gun on what appers to be your friend you should have been scared I was going to kill him.
If someone has a gun to the president, The rest of ther goverment are under FearRP that if they shoot the man with the gun, they may get the president killed.
- You failed to Roleplay this out,
- And rhys broke FearRP
- It is also quite keep you MetaGamed in this video.
(https://plays.tv/video/5977e256b452908704/vader-1) Regarding this one, Yes by the looks of it I did break fearrp as your gun was out. Hands up to that one.
No comment needed
For the summary of the entire roleplay. I did state i would seek revenge on those officers and also the president for not doing anything about it (How survived those two attacks is somehow beyond me - Very lucky). The reparation actions that followed were indeed deemed fit for the reasoning behind them.
I would have to agree that the roleplay itsself is not the issue here as such, it is the way in which you broke rules to gain an advantage. I didn't see the attacks, however I'm sure they were madgical xD
Thanks,
Vadar.
(Jul 26, 2017, 03:04 PM)Marvin Hampton Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul 26, 2017, 02:11 PM)Vadar Wrote: [ -> ]Hello,
Now theres alot to go through regarding this whole scene that lasted around an hour so i will keep it nice and sweet.
Regarding PMing you last night on the end of this video i said "Unknown" Metagame/Powergamed twice. This should give some more proof regarding that (https://plays.tv/video/5977e6c30b45efc084/vader-4). This also shows Unknown as a cop moments before the president being shot : https://i.imgur.com/oWJjkPG.jpg
Unknown may, or may not have Powergamed, however, I nor did pilot have any communication with him regarding him changing as a paramedic. This was completely his decision, also he did seem to stay as Paramedic for the entire time after this even when we needed more people in the Gunfight.
He did switch twice for both shots at the president. Ive got tab screenshots for that and in-game logs will also show. I Included that as its the same issue in hand and this was going to be looked at today anyways.
(https://youtu.be/OsGqfWbp...e=youtu.be) To do with this one Pilot, You were the only police officer driving around in a Dodge Charger on the entire police force. I recognised your car and hence opened fire. Relating to RP reason behind this due to what happened in the garage i said something similar to "Im coming for you 1512 and 1513".
You would not have known this was him, in character plenty of people could have been driving that police car you killing him shows you meta gamed. In character you would not have been fully aware that it was him therefore killing him was invalid before being 100% certain.
The same person driving in that car (Same playermodel) and i knew there was only one officer with that car. I shot at him way away from the vicinity for the nametag to appear.
(https://plays.tv/video/5977e5f499aaec2650/vader-3) Regarding Roleplay as i said above i said i was coming for the both of you. What Rick did is none of my responsibility or anything to do with me you will have to take that up with him.
You killing me, I'm not 100% sure but it might be valid for you to do so yes, however it is the way in which it happened. You just happened to be in that very area with a gun out, in public, when he was under FearRP. Also, you must have been aware he was under FearRp therefore killing me in that moment is invalid. I had a gun on what appers to be your friend you should have been scared I was going to kill him.
If someone has a gun to the president, The rest of ther goverment are under FearRP that if they shoot the man with the gun, they may get the president killed.
- You failed to Roleplay this out,
- And rhys broke FearRP
- It is also quite keep you MetaGamed in this video.
I was in that area since you guys chased me and i was hiding. I was watching from behind AMPM in the bushes. If i am roleplaying as a thug and have a shotgun in roleplay i should be able to take you as gun point which i did then shot you in the head.
(https://plays.tv/video/5977e256b452908704/vader-1) Regarding this one, Yes by the looks of it I did break fearrp as your gun was out. Hands up to that one.
No comment needed
For the summary of the entire roleplay. I did state i would seek revenge on those officers and also the president for not doing anything about it (How survived those two attacks is somehow beyond me - Very lucky). The reparation actions that followed were indeed deemed fit for the reasoning behind them.
I would have to agree that the roleplay itsself is not the issue here as such, it is the way in which you broke rules to gain an advantage. I didn't see the attacks, however I'm sure they were madgical xD
Thanks,
Vadar.
(Jul 26, 2017, 03:14 PM)Vadar Wrote: [ -> ](https://youtu.be/OsGqfWbp...e=youtu.be) To do with this one Pilot, You were the only police officer driving around in a Dodge Charger on the entire police force. I recognised your car and hence opened fire. Relating to RP reason behind this due to what happened in the garage i said something similar to "Im coming for you 1512 and 1513".
You would not have known this was him, in character plenty of people could have been driving that police car you killing him shows you meta gamed. In character you would not have been fully aware that it was him therefore killing him was invalid before being 100% certain.
The same person driving in that car (Same playermodel) and i knew there was only one officer with that car. I shot at him way away from the vicinity for the nametag to appear.
Honestly that is simply making an assumption that I was the only player in a Dodge. I had been on the server for around 4 hours in total and had seen the same vehicle off and on to the point that at one time there were 3 - 4 players in marked dodge units. It's also funny you say "I shot at him way away from the vicinity for the nametag to appear" because I watched you in the video and as I drive by you are tracking me with your weapon. From the second I was within distance you started tracking so you could have very easily read the name pop-up on my vehicle and shooting me was simply you lining up a shot.
(Jul 26, 2017, 04:44 PM)PilotC Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul 26, 2017, 03:14 PM)Vadar Wrote: [ -> ](https://youtu.be/OsGqfWbp...e=youtu.be) To do with this one Pilot, You were the only police officer driving around in a Dodge Charger on the entire police force. I recognised your car and hence opened fire. Relating to RP reason behind this due to what happened in the garage i said something similar to "Im coming for you 1512 and 1513".
You would not have known this was him, in character plenty of people could have been driving that police car you killing him shows you meta gamed. In character you would not have been fully aware that it was him therefore killing him was invalid before being 100% certain.
The same person driving in that car (Same playermodel) and i knew there was only one officer with that car. I shot at him way away from the vicinity for the nametag to appear.
Honestly that is simply making an assumption that I was the only player in a Dodge. I had been on the server for around 4 hours in total and had seen the same vehicle off and on to the point that at one time there were 3 - 4 players in marked dodge units. It's also funny you say "I shot at him way away from the vicinity for the nametag to appear" because I watched you in the video and as I drive by you are tracking me with your weapon. From the second I was within distance you started tracking so you could have very easily read the name pop-up on my vehicle and shooting me was simply you lining up a shot.
Why would i shoot from there to the nexus ? Its a shotgun with minimal range.
Okay, like I said in the video I didn't have any volume. Which I have sorted today so shouldn't be a problem any more. If he had read the chat it would of helped him a lot. I put in character chat saying I was deaf, then in ooc. Also, it was also said in the video they were looking for a black gtr. Mine was blue. I was simply refuelling my car, I hadn't been with vadar up until that point where vadar came to get his revenge (in character) And I was no longer in fear rp so I left. The reason I didn't try to drive away in the first place when the cop with the white car stopped me was because I didn't want to break it. If he had typed it I would of happily gotten out but he either ignored or didn't see my messages in chat.
(Jul 26, 2017, 05:00 PM)Slaverick Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, like I said in the video I didn't have any volume. Which I have sorted today so shouldn't be a problem any more. If he had read the chat it would of helped him a lot. I put in character chat saying I was deaf, then in ooc. Also, it was also said in the video they were looking for a black gtr. Mine was blue. I was simply refuelling my car, I hadn't been with vadar up until that point where vadar came to get his revenge (in character) And I was no longer in fear rp so I left. The reason I didn't try to drive away in the first place when the cop with the white car stopped me was because I didn't want to break it. If he had typed it I would of happily gotten out but he either ignored or didn't see my messages in chat.
If you were roleplaying that you were deaf, it would not have mattered that I did not type, otherwise both you and I would have been failing to roleplay. If someone was pointing a gun at me ordering me to do something after I'd been forcefully stopped by police. Logic would state that you get out of the car.
Even with that being said I am not fully convinced that you had these technical issues like you say. You appear to be interacting with what was being said in both the first and last video, and seem to remember you doing so in other points of the night.
You still appear to Collaborating in this video which is hard to deny with this evidence. Frankly it is clear that rules were broken by both of you during the course of this ropeplay. You significantly impacted others experience and enjoyment on the server, these rule breaks may seem minuscule however add up.
Well I'm sorry you feel that way but it doesn't change the facts that I couldn't hear you. And I had interacted at times since I was in a discord (on my phone) with vadar and he was relaying for me. But he wasn't close enough when you were ordering me to get out. Also, before you say anything. Just because I know him and was on discord with him, doesn't mean we were "collaborating" he got in my car after, yes. But before that I had died from a crash so I wasn't talking to him and he wasn't under fear rp since his character didn't know mine. Then he got in my car and I had just witnessed him murder a cop. I was acting out fear rp by driving away. And it seems to be only you that was bothered by this. And one guy who was changing his job to abuse the powers...
Edit: btw, I wasn't role-playing to be deaf for the sake of it. I was trying to not go out of character but let you know I didn't have volume. Which I realised half way through and put in ooc. Which is also in the video that you posted
(Jul 26, 2017, 08:42 PM)Slaverick Wrote: [ -> ]Well I'm sorry you feel that way but it doesn't change the facts that I couldn't hear you. And I had interacted at times since I was in a discord (on my phone) with vadar and he was relaying for me. But he wasn't close enough when you were ordering me to get out. Also, before you say anything. Just because I know him and was on discord with him, doesn't mean we were "collaborating" he got in my car after, yes. But before that I had died from a crash so I wasn't talking to him and he wasn't under fear rp since his character didn't know mine. Then he got in my car and I had just witnessed him murder a cop. I was acting out fear rp by driving away. And it seems to be only you that was bothered by this. And one guy who was changing his job to abuse the powers...
Edit: btw, I wasn't role-playing to be deaf for the sake of it. I was trying to not go out of character but let you know I didn't have volume. Which I realised half way through and put in ooc. Which is also in the video that you posted
For one his character was to get vengeance on us, not the public. So even if this is true he should have still been concerned for your life. You can see in the video that you stopped to allow him to get in if you were deaf you wouldn't have heard him IC. This prove that there was collaboration between you. Your story doesn't add up and I feel like I've made my case and all that needs to be said, has been said.
I've already stated that I don't know much about Unknowns actions regarding his job change therefore cannot make an opinion upon the matter, I'm sorry about this.
(Jul 26, 2017, 04:48 PM)Vadar Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul 26, 2017, 04:44 PM)PilotC Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul 26, 2017, 03:14 PM)Vadar Wrote: [ -> ](https://youtu.be/OsGqfWbp...e=youtu.be) To do with this one Pilot, You were the only police officer driving around in a Dodge Charger on the entire police force. I recognised your car and hence opened fire. Relating to RP reason behind this due to what happened in the garage i said something similar to "Im coming for you 1512 and 1513".
You would not have known this was him, in character plenty of people could have been driving that police car you killing him shows you meta gamed. In character you would not have been fully aware that it was him therefore killing him was invalid before being 100% certain.
The same person driving in that car (Same playermodel) and i knew there was only one officer with that car. I shot at him way away from the vicinity for the nametag to appear.
Honestly that is simply making an assumption that I was the only player in a Dodge. I had been on the server for around 4 hours in total and had seen the same vehicle off and on to the point that at one time there were 3 - 4 players in marked dodge units. It's also funny you say "I shot at him way away from the vicinity for the nametag to appear" because I watched you in the video and as I drive by you are tracking me with your weapon. From the second I was within distance you started tracking so you could have very easily read the name pop-up on my vehicle and shooting me was simply you lining up a shot.
Why would i shoot from there to the nexus ? Its a shotgun with minimal range.
So you're lying then, is that the game we are going to play vadar. You shot me with a revolver and you weren't at Nexus, you were at the corner of Side Street and Mainstreet. You had both hands up in front of you as I drove past and when we chased you by AMPM you were shooting a revolver into an officer execution style. That most certainly was not a shotgun and you were no where near Nexus.
Advice no one asked for...maybe watch the evidence before you make up false statements, things tend to work better that way.
(Jul 26, 2017, 09:14 PM)PilotC Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul 26, 2017, 04:48 PM)Vadar Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul 26, 2017, 04:44 PM)PilotC Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul 26, 2017, 03:14 PM)Vadar Wrote: [ -> ](https://youtu.be/OsGqfWbp...e=youtu.be) To do with this one Pilot, You were the only police officer driving around in a Dodge Charger on the entire police force. I recognised your car and hence opened fire. Relating to RP reason behind this due to what happened in the garage i said something similar to "Im coming for you 1512 and 1513".
You would not have known this was him, in character plenty of people could have been driving that police car you killing him shows you meta gamed. In character you would not have been fully aware that it was him therefore killing him was invalid before being 100% certain.
The same person driving in that car (Same playermodel) and i knew there was only one officer with that car. I shot at him way away from the vicinity for the nametag to appear.
Honestly that is simply making an assumption that I was the only player in a Dodge. I had been on the server for around 4 hours in total and had seen the same vehicle off and on to the point that at one time there were 3 - 4 players in marked dodge units. It's also funny you say "I shot at him way away from the vicinity for the nametag to appear" because I watched you in the video and as I drive by you are tracking me with your weapon. From the second I was within distance you started tracking so you could have very easily read the name pop-up on my vehicle and shooting me was simply you lining up a shot.
Why would i shoot from there to the nexus ? Its a shotgun with minimal range.
So you're lying then, is that the game we are going to play vadar. You shot me with a revolver and you weren't at Nexus, you were at the corner of Side Street and Mainstreet. You had both hands up in front of you as I drove past and when we chased you by AMPM you were shooting a revolver into an officer execution style. That most certainly was not a shotgun and you were no where near Nexus.
Advice no one asked for...maybe watch the evidence before you make up false statements, things tend to work better that way.
Rewatch your video. It was a shotgun buddy.
Vadar