I would support this change to NLR blacklist.
1) NLR indicator above his head (when inside the NRL zone), that would let other players know and would also allow for easier report on people breaking the rule while under the blacklist. (This could apply to anyone under NLR to make reporting it easier.)
2) Change the time they sit dead from 10 minutes to 3 minutes.
3) While in the dead state, bring up a window which explains what NLR is and why they should follow it.
This is still a punishment, it is less likely to deter players from playing again and is more likely to rehabilitate the offender.
Note: I misread the poll.
Instead of a 10 minute death screen, I'd prefer as punishment a ban or a restriction on all aggressiveRP items for those 10 minutes.
(May 30, 2017, 03:00 PM)Project Wrote: [ -> ]I would support this change to NLR blacklist.
1) NLR indicator above his head (when inside the NRL zone), that would let other players know and would also allow for easier report on people breaking the rule while under the blacklist. (This could apply to anyone under NLR to make reporting it easier.)
2) Change the time they sit dead from 10 minutes to 3 minutes.
3) While in the dead state, bring up a window which explains what NLR is and why they should follow it.
This is still a punishment, it is less likely to deter players from playing again and is more likely to rehabilitate the offender.
^^^
I believe this is the best solution till now.
+Support for Project's Idea.
Seems to be working nicely as a punishment so far.
I'm very cautious towards any sort of automated punishment-system that punishes something where context can be vital.
While I do not like the NLR blacklist, I don't think that replacing it with an automated blacklist-system would be a better solution. Atleast now we hand it out at our own discretion if we think a NLR blacklist is best suited or not.
Does anyone oppose that idea? Lower the timer to 3 minutes, and display a description of why the player is waiting extra time? 10 minutes is just far too long, 3 minutes still provides a punishment and providing a caption explaining NLR would be beneficial to everyone.
(May 28, 2017, 07:31 PM)Vauld Wrote: [ -> ]Project, I'm sorry but that logic makes me cringe. "If you can't follow the rules you should not be trusted with being able to do anything until your time is up".
So with this logic:
If you prop-kill, you should have to wait 10 minutes on a black screen every time you spawn a prop.
If you disrespect someone in OOC, you should have to wait 10 minutes on a black screen every time you type.
If you break Fear RP, you should have to wait 10 minutes on a black screen every time you see a gun.
If you CDM you should have to wait 10 minutes on a black screen every time you try to spawn a car.
It's a terrible form of punishment. If you want something effective, make them wait 10 minutes once they've re-entered their NLR zone. Our players aren't even gonna be able to play the damn server if we just have the logic "WELP, IF THEY BREAK THE RULES, THEY SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING RELATED TO THAT VIOLATION FOR 3 HOURS"
So.. by that Logic, you want that People can not spawn in that time they have the blacklist?
Since: Vehicle, Weapon, etc.. Blacklist takes away the power to do that certain thing you got blacklisted and i do believe that 10 minutes is better than 4 hours.