(Mar 8, 2019, 08:44 PM)ForceGhost Wrote: After being demoted inside of an armored vehicle, without notification or discussion with the Police Chief, I decided to use the equipment to seek revenge on the PD for the, in my opinion, unlawful demotion.

The demotion was valid. You arrested a citizen for making an advert as a TAC officer. I've told you several times not to arrest him and to stay at the base. Even as you started "chasing" the suspect I told you several times in the radio to turn your ELS off and to return to the PD. You ignored those commands. Then you proceeded to arrest a citizen infront of me, despite me saying multiple times to release the citizen. TL;DR - You failed to listen to a direct command by a supervisor multiple times, arrested a citizen for a silly and stupid reason as a TAC officer despite being told not to do so.

Staff were online during the ordeal and it did continue for around 40 minutes after you disconnected without a single staff member reaching out to me.

Welker was the only staff member online. I even made an @call and asked if Welker is there in order to avoid a PR. Unfortunately Welker was afk at that time (as stated by him in OOC before).

My job title was set to an appropriate one during the situation and seeing as how you CAN ram users out of a SWAT van with an ASP baton it's not exactly an impossibility to get me out of it.

You can clearly see in the provided evidence that you drove extremely reckless and fast for such a van. There was no way for us to get you out of the van with a ram. 

As for the claims that it breaks rule 3.3, I can find numerous examples of people a) Stealing armoured vehicles and going on a rampage and b) Taking stole vehicles while being entrusted with them.

You can not lockpick a SWAT van. You've crashed into several police vehicles just to cause havoc or as stated by you to "revenge an invalid demotion". I should ask you why you did not even try to contact me after the demotion, but instead DIRECTLY started to crash into police cars and citizen vehicles.

I think at the end of the day, you should have ensured I was outside of the vehicle before you basically informed me that I had lost my job. There's a reason companies tend to take away employees access to dangerous and harmful systems before they tell them they're being fired.

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I don't really see how this is defending you or is in any kind valid to the case, but aight. You're an ex-teacher with 1200 hours. I just couldn't think of you to stay in the van after the demotion to drive circles in the city for 40 minutes (as stated by you) to ram every single vehicle away and cause absolute chaos in the entire city area for a valid demotion.

(Mar 8, 2019, 09:05 PM)Nebula Wrote: -Involved- As I joined later and he was rampaging through the city (while I was SWAT).
So yeah, he was constantly taunting the PD, when the officers gave up he constantly came back into the city, broke all traffic rules to get back into a chase.
A while later (as nobody was following him) there was a call at lake, so I went up there in my SWAT van, suddenly I spot the Van as he turns around and stops almost infront of me, using the manual siren to taunt me (after that point, the SWAT Van disappeared).

(Mar 8, 2019, 09:28 PM)Cole_ Wrote: It's extremely hard to put a SWAT van away when it tops out at 30mph, and the police are chasing the SWAT van for about 20 minutes straight. They tried multiple times to put it away at Blu Cinema but as there were cops constantly behind them, they couldn't.

Oh yeah, sorry for starting a pursuit after you have managed to destroy half the city with an indestructable van. Just because police tried and failed to stop you/them, doesn't negate the fact that he broke the rules by doing what he did in the first place. Otherwise I can go around and kill 100 people and be like "well, the police could have killed me, so I didn't break the rules. Police just failed to kill me xd omegalul".

You could've easily stopped the SWAT van with a bit of coordination and blocking the vehicle in and then using the ASP baton to get them out of the vehicle, but hey ho.. 

See above.


(I was involved in the pursuit, before you start saying I wasn't). - You were driving the reventon I guess.

Internet Wrote:Intended behavior until breaches are rewritten to allow placing on armored vehicles.

(Mar 8, 2019, 09:47 PM)Cole_ Wrote: @roxas,‍ you're not able to kill people with an ASP baton in the SWAT van? I meant you can right click and it will eject them out of the vehicle, like it would with any other vehicle.

(Mar 8, 2019, 09:48 PM)ForceGhost Wrote: It's a feature: https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-24367.html

Internet Wrote:Intended behavior until breaches are rewritten to allow placing on armored vehicles.

I continued because I was not only being pursued, but also shot at. No attempt was made by the PD to communicate with me aside from shooting at my vehicle.