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Sales Tax - Markus - Dec 5, 2018
Title:
Sales Tax
Description:
Add income tax into the game, which could be calculated
after every purchase made from the Market.
Why?:
Let's face it, many of us have made suggestions or have had ideas of
how the government could actually help the betterment of the city, like
actual governments do.
However, I believe that these suggestions missed the most
critical aspect of a government: money.
Now of course, if the governments keep wasting money,
then the people will still have a reason to force them to make a change.
Either peacefully or.... not so peacefully.
RE: Income Tax - Soviethooves - Dec 5, 2018
+Support when we get a proper POS system for stores
RE: Income Tax - Montyfatcat - Dec 5, 2018
Seems a dodgy way to do it, I would need some time but I think I can work on something that would be a bit less hit or miss
RE: Income Tax - Hungames - Dec 5, 2018
Do you mean sales tax? we already collect a 0-20% income tax
RE: Income Tax - Markus - Dec 6, 2018
(Dec 5, 2018, 10:37 PM)Hungames Wrote: Do you mean sales tax? we already collect a 0-20% income tax
That.
RE: Sales Tax - BlackDog - Dec 6, 2018
I mean, if we had a proper PoS system, and the money didnt just go straight to the president but into a government bank account thats used to fund the government itself.
Then id support this, BUT there would also need to be a way to bypass this entirely, much like the income tax also requires a way for people to opt out, but risk jail time.
RE: Sales Tax - Montyfatcat - Dec 6, 2018
(Dec 6, 2018, 01:05 AM)BlackDog Wrote: I mean, if we had a proper PoS system, and the money didnt just go straight to the president but into a government bank account thats used to fund the government itself.
Then id support this, BUT there would also need to be a way to bypass this entirely, much like the income tax also requires a way for people to opt out, but risk jail time.
Already on it with that one
RE: Sales Tax - Markus - Dec 6, 2018
(Dec 6, 2018, 01:05 AM)BlackDog Wrote: I mean, if we had a proper PoS system, and the money didnt just go straight to the president but into a government bank account thats used to fund the government itself.
Then id support this, BUT there would also need to be a way to bypass this entirely, much like the income tax also requires a way for people to opt out, but risk jail time.
As I have said in the beginning, this would be part of that better system.
I also agree that we need to lay a better foundation for the whole government, however, this would
make us be able to secure the funding for a new system.
RE: Sales Tax - BlackDog - Dec 6, 2018
(Dec 6, 2018, 02:15 AM)Markus Wrote:(Dec 6, 2018, 01:05 AM)BlackDog Wrote: I mean, if we had a proper PoS system, and the money didnt just go straight to the president but into a government bank account thats used to fund the government itself.
Then id support this, BUT there would also need to be a way to bypass this entirely, much like the income tax also requires a way for people to opt out, but risk jail time.
As I have said in the beginning, this would be part of that better system.
I also agree that we need to lay a better foundation for the whole government, however, this would
make us be able to secure the funding for a new system.
The bolded and underlined:
How exactly would a sales tax of ingame money fund any development on a new governmental banking system?
RE: Sales Tax - Markus - Dec 6, 2018
(Dec 6, 2018, 02:36 AM)BlackDog Wrote:(Dec 6, 2018, 02:15 AM)Markus Wrote:(Dec 6, 2018, 01:05 AM)BlackDog Wrote: I mean, if we had a proper PoS system, and the money didnt just go straight to the president but into a government bank account thats used to fund the government itself.
Then id support this, BUT there would also need to be a way to bypass this entirely, much like the income tax also requires a way for people to opt out, but risk jail time.
As I have said in the beginning, this would be part of that better system.
I also agree that we need to lay a better foundation for the whole government, however, this would
make us be able to secure the funding for a new system.
The bolded and underlined:
How exactly would a sales tax of ingame money fund any development on a new governmental banking system?
Once the new proposed governmental changes would be implemented, we would still be looking at the problem that the government as a whole -without cutting funding from crucial branches- earns less compared to a single citizen's income, than an actual government would make compared to an actual citizen's income. Simply said: governments IRL make 1000x more than a citizen of that country.
Now, of course, there are other ways to earning money as well (see example in the second line), however removing a few percentages of a person's sales income is -in my opinion- the least obtrusive way to do it.
RE: Sales Tax - Jeff Ford - Dec 6, 2018
+Support
There should be a city funds system. Money collected goes to the President and his cabinet that get the taxes, and also goes to like a "federal reserve" where the President can use the money, for example;
- Give Grants to businesses.
- Place more vending machines around the city.
- Increase the budget for a Government Force. (E.g Increase salary for specific government forces, or make weapons/equipment cheaper).
RE: Sales Tax - Markus - Dec 6, 2018
(Dec 6, 2018, 06:32 PM)Jeff Ford Wrote: +Support
There should be a city funds system. Money collected goes to the President and his cabinet that get the taxes, and also goes to like a "federal reserve" where the President can use the money, for example;
- Give Grants to businesses.
- Place more vending machines around the city.
- Increase the budget for a Government Force. (E.g Increase salary for specific government forces, or make weapons/equipment cheaper).
That's a great idea actually! Make all money from vending machines go to the Government.
RE: Sales Tax - Jeff Ford - Dec 6, 2018
(Dec 6, 2018, 07:36 PM)Markus Wrote:(Dec 6, 2018, 06:32 PM)Jeff Ford Wrote: +Support
There should be a city funds system. Money collected goes to the President and his cabinet that get the taxes, and also goes to like a "federal reserve" where the President can use the money, for example;
- Give Grants to businesses.
- Place more vending machines around the city.
- Increase the budget for a Government Force. (E.g Increase salary for specific government forces, or make weapons/equipment cheaper).
That's a great idea actually! Make all money from vending machines go to the Government.
Uh well, that is actually a good idea, but not what I meant xD
I mean that the money the President get's from taxes, he gets (as his salary, as usual) but also goes to a fund where he can use that money to spawn the vending machines, and do the stuff in my aforementioned bullet points etc.
Getting money from the vending machines also works, alternatively. A better economic system would be nice.
RE: Sales Tax - StephanGH - Dec 7, 2018
I don't know. It really depends on if the government system is reworked any time soon. In which case it would be interesting to have a sale tax that the President could make larger or less.
RE: Sales Tax - Cooli - Dec 12, 2018
Neutral.