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The sky is falling - Jokhah - Aug 2, 2018
That's what I see when I read the constant "LL is dying" shit. If people would put in effort rather than complaining then leaving, the problem wouldn't be so severe. If people wouldn't support their friends doing toxic shit, problem wouldn't be so severe. The blind eye shit is worse from the players than the staff, every single day of the week.
Grow up, toughen up, and do something about the problem. Yall think you're rats escaping a sinking ship. To me you come off more like fleas jumping onto another animal so they can drain on it.
If this offended you, grow up. Life isn't about you, just like its not about me. Its about us. Us as a whole, as a community.
This is your wake up call.
RE: The sky is falling - Hungames - Aug 2, 2018
Good insight ray-ray
RE: The sky is falling - OfficialFriet - Aug 2, 2018
Well said
RE: The sky is falling - Alex - Aug 2, 2018
Couldn't have said it better myself
RE: The sky is falling - Welker - Aug 2, 2018
A bit of a burying your head in the sand approach.
RE: The sky is falling - Taylor - Aug 2, 2018
I love how it’s the same people that can’t be bothered to do anything that also say “Well said” etc, like instead of appreciating Jokhah’s post ACT on it.
RE: The sky is falling - Nebula - Aug 2, 2018
Why bother to invest time and energy for nothing to change
Lets take sours, what should he do in your eyes to make everything better?
When its enough, its enough and the finale solution is leaving.
RE: The sky is falling - Apex - Aug 2, 2018
>Implying we haven't tried that.
Sorry but this isn't a revolutionary standpoint that will change the game forever.
RE: The sky is falling - Apex - Aug 2, 2018
Also calling people that have invested time, money and some really good ideas into the game for years fleas that will feed on another animal is pretty insulting. Especially as I've never seen you do an original RP.
The people that are leaving have done nothing but give to the server, and part of the problem is people like you that see them as the offending party.
RE: The sky is falling - Jokhah - Aug 3, 2018
RE: The sky is falling - Apex - Aug 3, 2018
RE: The sky is falling - Welker - Aug 3, 2018
And your thread implies that the only issue is the community, more specifically the players and their roleplaying behavior however I would have to disagree on that point.
Because I and (I believe) a good deal of the community has lost faith in the leadership of Limelight or lack thereof. An owner that is incredibly inactive and merely a figurehead, HR that is scarcely seen at all - Enzyme for example hasn't even been online steam for 2 weeks. I understand life gets in the way and Enzyme is and has been an incredibly professional member of HR however this is getting a bit much now.
New moderators are great, but it seems moderators are being thrown at this issue and it's simply insufficient.
Going on to insult the people who made Limelight a great place to be and have decided to leave because it is a shadow of its former self is certainly not the way to improve the community. It just goes to strengthen the idea of how rude and ungrateful this community has become.
RE: The sky is falling - Jokhah - Aug 3, 2018
RE: The sky is falling - Jokhah - Aug 3, 2018
The point some people seem to be missing is that if everyone was actively trying to either focus on being decent, or taking the time to find a way to help with the content problems, we'd be a lot better off.
Lashing at me with "counter points" is pretty much pointless unless you have some way to prove that doing nothing and quitting will actually solve the problem. Letting things die isn't acceptable.
And notice that some people weren't offended. They read what I said and didn't feel the need to reply. Could be because they could tell my words weren't for them. If you don't feel like you're part of the group I'm talking about, why even spend the effort replying?
Its not like my opinion really matters anyway, right?
RE: The sky is falling - BlackDog - Aug 3, 2018
Those who wanted to make a difference have tried, those who wanted to enable change have tried, those who wanted accountability for inactivity have tried, those who wanted accountability for wrongdoings behind the scenes have tried.
In the end, no amount of trying to change things, changed anything, and those who tried, have moved on as their attempts to help the community they loved, fell on deaf ears, which to me is the worst thing of all.
The community turning in on itself and becoming a toxic mess is not the fault of the playerbase itself, but as noted above: Staff Neglect
In my personal experience: Accountability is at an all time low, where multiple members of the administrative staff can fail all activity quotas for 12, 10 months in a row, and where others can fail quota for well over 5 in a row, where repeated requests to HR for the issue to be dealt with are met with silence, or unwarranted and unprofessional jabs and jokes about the situation, or claims by HR that people are manipulating the facts, when literal spreadsheets and data collection showed otherwise.
Where staff would go to HR for assistance, and instead be met with hostility, and in more than one case, threats
Where projects start with such promise, only to be destroyed due to internal bickering and vitriol
Where the head of the community itself, is a literal figurehead with no stake in LL as a company, view-able in publicly available documents and business filings
This is the kind of neglect that breeds toxicity within a community over time, its been going on for well over a year and a half, and the only way to fix it, is at the top, nothing those of us at the bottom can do will solve the problems LL faces.
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