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RE: rule 1.6 racism - Jen - Mar 21, 2019
(Mar 21, 2019, 08:33 PM)Judge Rage Wrote:(Mar 21, 2019, 07:38 PM)Stell90 Wrote: And yes the rule wasn't discussed with the community beforehand as you don't need to cough up the funding to pay for the legal dispute if one does happen, which granted is unlikely but could still happen. So, as a result, the rule was introduced to stop us from having to do so.
Sometimes, a company needs to take actions to protect its self before speaking to the people who use the platform just so that we don't have to remove the platform as we are unable to continue to fund it due to a legal dispute costing the company thousands.
Except that any legal dispute literally wouldn't be LL's problem because LL themselves don't take responsibility for what people say on their platform. UGHHHHHHHHHHH READ MY EARLIER REPLIES
I'm not a lawyer nor do I wish to be, I'd rather LL took the side of caution rather than be done for this as another community has been done for. This rule change myself doesn't affect me and I believe it won't affect 99% of the people in this community as I have hardly ever heard racial slurs being said and even if they have been they were without any prior RP.
As said by Faustie, no one in the team is a lawyer and we'd rather be on the side of caution than be sued thousands in which the company cannot afford to be paying and to keep running the server. Again, I don't know this but by looking at the number of donations made and then putting costs of a legal dispute and the costs of running the server on top won't be anywhere near the amount the server is pulling in to remain running.
Again, another disclaimer this is totally my feeling and not the feelings of the team, this is what I personally think and don't start going against the team due to how I've interpreted the situation at hand.
RE: rule 1.6 racism - Grub - Mar 21, 2019
Some say pictures say a million words, thus in all seriousness, I recommend you take Growacet.
I personally don't care one way or another, however some people do enjoy being a little racist to compliment their character. It also stops paperwork regarding "he/she said" type junk that would occur and end up with bans for saying a word. You're in game, if you don't want to hear it, move on, or take actions IN CHARACTER. If you get offended by a word, then, in all honesty, you're going to have some issues in life. The whole point of RP is the limitless capabilities that you can potentially run into, just like life. Just because you don't agree with someones RP, doesn't make it right or wrong. There will always be misinformed people, some just want to be that antagonist.
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RE: rule 1.6 racism - Project - Mar 21, 2019
RE: rule 1.6 racism - Jeff Ford - Mar 22, 2019
(Mar 21, 2019, 10:01 PM)bismo Wrote:(Mar 21, 2019, 09:33 PM)Jeff Ford Wrote: Some may think that Monty is exaggerating his "Buzzfeed comes on, hears a racial slur, and says all GMod servers are racist" but, nothing is a reality until it actually happens.
you can say that about literally anything. its real cute you guys think limelights so important, but buzzfeed aint hoppin on any time soon. its kinda hilarious that people think that could be a reality.
Yup reality... Hilarious.
RE: rule 1.6 racism - Faustie - Mar 22, 2019
RE: rule 1.6 racism - Montyfatcat - Mar 22, 2019
Would fantasy forms of racism be affected? Say I open up a store that sells animatronic servants, that are sentient, and people start discriminating against them. This is technically "otherwise discriminatory" even if it isn't racist. The wording needs to be changed there ideally.
RE: rule 1.6 racism - Faustie - Mar 22, 2019
(Mar 22, 2019, 09:12 AM)Montyfatcat Wrote: Would fantasy forms of racism be affected? Say I open up a store that sells animatronic servants, that are sentient, and people start discriminating against them. This is technically "otherwise discriminatory" even if it isn't racist. The wording needs to be changed there ideally.
This is a really good point. I can't imagine any admin applying this rule to, for example, sentient robot servers servents as there's a ton of fantastic, non-harmful roleplay opportunity there.
An admin suggested revising the rule to add "against protected classes" which would remove this risk. It would require clarification though of those classes. Adding a phrase referencing "real" might help too.
RE: rule 1.6 racism - goigle - Mar 22, 2019
(Mar 21, 2019, 01:33 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote: Except with this rule, even if it is a high quality RP, you can still get banned for it. The rule makes no distinction between a 'casual racist remark' made as part of a developed character and excessive, non-relevant racism/discrimination that 'blurs the lines'. I could be RPing as an RC bishop and refuse to ordain women, and be perm'd for '1.6, sexism is bad'.
There is no distinction between the two, and it is far too risky to 'leave it up to the admins'.
I think you misunderstood me - I wholeheartedly agree with that. I was saying that the groups dedicated to racism offered little to no RP value and should be banned and that the rule should be amended to allow it as a part of your character. I probably should have made that clearer lol
RE: rule 1.6 racism - Soviethooves - Mar 22, 2019
(Mar 22, 2019, 03:41 PM)goigle Wrote:(Mar 21, 2019, 01:33 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote: Except with this rule, even if it is a high quality RP, you can still get banned for it. The rule makes no distinction between a 'casual racist remark' made as part of a developed character and excessive, non-relevant racism/discrimination that 'blurs the lines'. I could be RPing as an RC bishop and refuse to ordain women, and be perm'd for '1.6, sexism is bad'.
There is no distinction between the two, and it is far too risky to 'leave it up to the admins'.
I think you misunderstood me - I wholeheartedly agree with that. I was saying that the groups dedicated to racism offered little to no RP value and should be banned and that the rule should be amended to allow it as a part of your character. I probably should have made that clearer lol
I’d agree to that. Maybe as a note on FailRP or under the rule
RE: rule 1.6 racism - richie - Mar 22, 2019
racism shouldn't be done at all, doesn't matter just don't do it u fucking racists.
RE: rule 1.6 racism - Tom* - Mar 22, 2019
(Mar 22, 2019, 08:44 PM)richie Wrote: racism shouldn't be done at all, doesn't matter just don't do it u fucking racists.
Rascisim is not a choice
RE: rule 1.6 racism - richie - Mar 22, 2019
(Mar 22, 2019, 09:00 PM)Tom_ Wrote:(Mar 22, 2019, 08:44 PM)richie Wrote: racism shouldn't be done at all, doesn't matter just don't do it u fucking racists.
Rascisim is not a choice
it is, and it's disrespectful if you do it. just snobby people who do it who think they're better than other races. all are equal
RE: rule 1.6 racism - Tom* - Mar 22, 2019
(Mar 22, 2019, 09:12 PM)richie Wrote:(Mar 22, 2019, 09:00 PM)Tom_ Wrote:(Mar 22, 2019, 08:44 PM)richie Wrote: racism shouldn't be done at all, doesn't matter just don't do it u fucking racists.
Rascisim is not a choice
it is, and it's disrespectful if you do it. just snobby people who do it who think they're better than other races. all are equal
What if they have a reason to be racist
RE: rule 1.6 racism - Tom* - Mar 22, 2019
(Mar 22, 2019, 09:12 PM)richie Wrote:You must hate rascists.(Mar 22, 2019, 09:00 PM)Tom_ Wrote:(Mar 22, 2019, 08:44 PM)richie Wrote: racism shouldn't be done at all, doesn't matter just don't do it u fucking racists.
Rascisim is not a choice
it is, and it's disrespectful if you do it. just snobby people who do it who think they're better than other races. all are equal
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RE: rule 1.6 racism - Judge Rage - Mar 23, 2019
(Mar 22, 2019, 09:12 PM)richie Wrote:(Mar 22, 2019, 09:00 PM)Tom_ Wrote:(Mar 22, 2019, 08:44 PM)richie Wrote: racism shouldn't be done at all, doesn't matter just don't do it u fucking racists.
Rascisim is not a choice
it is, and it's disrespectful if you do it. just snobby people who do it who think they're better than other races. all are equal
That's not the point lmao. The point is a character development one - racism happens irl so why should it be barred on a real-life RP server?