(Jun 2, 2020, 10:48 PM)Faustin Wrote:

(Jun 2, 2020, 10:47 PM)Quest Wrote: @"Faustin"‍ Wow you really think that this movement is all about riots and looting; you are part of this problem. How is it that every other BLM protest in London so far has been peaceful then? Stop spreading fear when all these people are trying to spread is love and equality.

#AllLivesMatter

(Jun 2, 2020, 11:00 PM)Quest Wrote: Currently all lives ARE NOT EQUAL

(Jun 2, 2020, 11:20 PM)Doctor Internet Wrote: You can stop giving officers who kill free passes.

(Jun 3, 2020, 11:49 AM)Tails Wrote:

(Jun 2, 2020, 11:00 PM)Quest Wrote: Currently all lives ARE NOT EQUAL

the law would strongly disagree with you.

Unless you live in a third world country, but considering people are targetting the (very equal) United States instead of the countries where racism is everywhere, yeah the law isnt on your side this time

(Jun 3, 2020, 11:51 AM)Quest Wrote: Statistics would strongly disagree with you.

But I'm not arguing here anymore because I can't change any of your opinions; yes I strong disagree with you. However I cannot change this fact and therefore I am not responding anymore.

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:23 PM)Tails Wrote:

(Jun 3, 2020, 11:51 AM)Quest Wrote: Statistics would strongly disagree with you.

But I'm not arguing here anymore because I can't change any of your opinions; yes I strong disagree with you. However I cannot change this fact and therefore I am not responding anymore.

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Whites are more likely to be shot by police

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238,381,680 white americans
41,486,314 black americans

Total white or african american violent crimes: 394,404 (some margin of error here that carries through)

White % of white/black violent crime: 61.12% (213,555)
0.214% of police shootings == 0.35% adjusted for percentage of violent crime committed

Black % of white/black violent crime: 43.89% (153,353)
0.0015% of police shootings, 0.00342% adjusted for percentage of violent crime committed

The discrimination against whites is insaaaane

edit: Blacks committing disproportionaly higher violent crime is not a genetic/race issue, but a socio-economic one derived from the days of slavery. There are plenty of initiatives these days to help these groups, so things are improving for lower income areas

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:27 PM)Stell90 Wrote:

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:23 PM)Tails Wrote:

(Jun 3, 2020, 11:51 AM)Quest Wrote: Statistics would strongly disagree with you.

But I'm not arguing here anymore because I can't change any of your opinions; yes I strong disagree with you. However I cannot change this fact and therefore I am not responding anymore.

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0.0015% of police shootings, 0.00342% adjusted for percentage of violent crime committed

The discrimination against whites is insaaaane

edit: Blacks committing disproportionaly higher violent crime is not a genetic/race issue, but a socio-economic one derived from the days of slavery. There are plenty of initiatives these days to help these groups, so things are improving for lower income areas

Well, this isn't showing the full picture at all, this is for violent crimes not for crimes without violence. This is a perfect example of when people abuse statistics...

I'm not going to look around for the statistics for non-violent crimes or just crimes in general, as at the moment I really don't have the time for that.

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:42 PM)Andromeda Wrote: I believe in bad policing and poor training in some departments.

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:42 PM)Andromeda Wrote: I don't believe in systematic racism. I believe in bad policing and poor training in some departments.

(Jun 3, 2020, 02:08 PM)George Wrote:

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:42 PM)Andromeda Wrote: I believe in bad policing and poor training in some departments.

This. That's the problem when the country you live in is willing to give any Tom, Dick, or Harry a gun and a badge.

(Jun 3, 2020, 05:05 PM)Andromeda Wrote:

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The other officers have been charged.

(Jun 3, 2020, 06:16 PM)Reebs Wrote:

(Jun 3, 2020, 02:08 PM)George Wrote:

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:42 PM)Andromeda Wrote: I believe in bad policing and poor training in some departments.

This. That's the problem when the country you live in is willing to give any Tom, Dick, or Harry a gun and a badge.

I do also just want to note here that it’s incredibly difficult to become a LEO in most departments. The overwhelming majority of departments don’t just give anyone a badge and gun. 

I’d like to propose some more food for thought though...is it possible these officers just either got complacent or stupid after time on the job? I’m not saying that would excuse it by any means, but given they’re charging the officer with manslaughter (from what I’ve read at least), that would mean that the loss of Mr. Floyd was unintentional. Still doesn’t excuse it, but just some food for thought...

(Jun 3, 2020, 07:08 PM)Ollie630 Wrote: Kneeling on someones neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds whilst they are telling you that they can't breathe can't be put down to complacency or stupidity.