Quote:(Involved in the whole RP situation i was also there at the Vault) May i just add that after Kimpow ran away from the vault i ran after her but Due to StephanGH Blocking the vault entrance by the time i left the bank and Turned the Corner she was all the way down The road by that time as she had a Little headstart. No more than 10-15 Minutes later i get a texted by I think was Nemesis saying she was in the AFK slot so i decided to text Kimpow with something like "You know we are still looking for you right?" which then she replied by saying "im busy rn, just dealing with OOC stuff" i believe she replied at which then i responded by saying "You dug a hole too deep" which show that i gave her a clear sign we were still Rping if any staff is able to check the logs it would help (evidence wise) but i did give her a clear message that we were still Rping whilst looking for her, Thank you- ZaidPlays

StephanGH Wrote:The wellbeing of a person always stands over RP, a game is a game. Real Life should always stand above this. The fact that you are banning her when a Moderator in your own team, and multiple players can confirm that she was genuinly distraught and unable to continue that RP is kinda disgusting. You should be more worried if she is okay, yes it's a game and shouldn't be taken to serious but some people genuinly get upset when they feel like they did something wrong. To then sound agitated towards that person is just another level. Try to understand people rather than only worrying about your own Roleplay and view on things. In the end we are a community, we should be there for eachother. Not trying to destroy eachother.

Kimpow Wrote:Lil’ Tibbs is the girl that wears the hoodie, and Kim Lawrence is her real name.

StephanGH Wrote:3. As for the FearRP. I am 99% sure it is not true.
The President himself ordered all guns away. I saw no guns within the vault apart from myself with a lowered M4A1. I then stood infront of Kimpows character. Tibbs. To prevent any harm being able to be brought upon her. She knew I was there to protect her. So when she was able to she knew I would help her out. There was no LoS at any moment for them to even put her under FearRP (even though they didn't even have weapons)

ForceGhost Wrote:My SSA had their weapons drawn while Kimpow was in the vault.

She ran past them on her way out of the vault.

Kimpow Wrote:

ForceGhost Wrote:1.3 - Do not reconnect, suicide, change job or do anything else to avoid a roleplay situation. If you suddenly have to go, inform the people you are roleplaying with via LOOC and give them a few minutes to conclude the RP. If you are unable to stay for those few minutes, we recommend that you go AFK instead of disconnecting and inform staff via @.

Quote:Whilst that may be, the character system isn't designed for that, which HR have clarified. I shouldn't need to go to a roleplay thread to clarify whether "Lil' Tibbs" and "Kim Lawrence" are two different people or individuals. If you meant for them to be the same person, you could have done as your IC name "Kim 'Lil' Tibbs' Lawrence", as that would indicate the two characters are the same and then you could change your job to indicate that your roleplaying as this "Lil' Tibbs" character. As I'm told, backed with evidence, that your job title was "The Red Revolt - Lil ' Goons", this could be altered to "The Red Revolt - Lil' Tibbs". This would indicate your roleplay was that of this Lil' Tibbs personality and not the standard everyday person you see walking down the streets.

The way that you've executed this seems to be a misunderstanding on your half. Personally, I don't see the correlation between Lil' Tibbs and Kim Lawrence, as they're both wildly different names from one another and I don't see how the two link. If it was fairly close to the name then I might be able to understand, but in this case we're talking polar opposites.

Quote:Whilst the original message from the staff member whose identity I've now confirmed internally and have spoken to during the course of this appeal did show uncertainty and a lack of context which perhaps could have been excused, I believe the above message is clear enough to state what you should have done, rather than what you actually did. As Welker pointed out, there's also a significant time difference between the message and the time you went AFK. You should have waited on the staff member to confirm it, not just do it and hope that the answer comes back allowing you to do it.

Quote:Perhaps foolishly having had the feeling he knew the situation, for he did tell me about Bambo trying to ban me for something that I already received a warning for.

Quote:I have talked to multiple people on staff and others, asking what to do in this situation. They assured me that a ban for this reason was too much. With no priors, nothing on record I get instantly punished with a ban. A permanent warning would have sounded more reasonable.

Quote:They decided to punish me upon the reason where Welker felt I did have ill intent. But how can you prove such when I already said I fully returned when I calmed down. Logs can confirm I sent someone a message saying I needed help to set up the apartment, when I just rented the door.

Quote:I also have a large concern about how this was dealt with. Both staff members involved dealt with the @-sit. I believe it to be more fair when a neutral member deals with the situation. First Bambo talked to me about it, then when he timed out, Welker jumped in.

Quote:This concerns me, for both were heavily involved in the roleplay. They were per se, main figures in the RP. Everyone has emotions, we are all Human. I do strongly believe both staff members were taken hostage by their own emotion. Perhaps explaining the ban, instead of a warning.  I hope you understand my train of thought here.

(Dec 31, 2018, 10:00 PM)Kimpow Wrote: Hello, Bambo.

I did fully understand my FearRP breakage. It happened by accident and in the future I will be more cautious when someone might be holding a weapon. I will make sure I check twice. 

Except you knew full well I had a gun from the front door, to the office and to the vault. You claim you fully understood the Fear RP yet you have questioned it this entire UBR. You asked me not to kill your character, you knew full well your life was at risk, yet you still decided to break Fear RP. 

I am surprised you are bringing it up in a way as if I did not understand for in our @-sit we barely talked about it. Why do you think I don't understand? For I do believe I do. I acknowledged my mistake and apologised, as seen in the evidence. 

For the AFK ban, I still stand firmly on the fact I did not avoid the roleplay due to going AFK. I had to go call down only to return when ready. Which I was not long after.

It is not my fault people ought to look on the scoreboard, see I was AFK and decide to fully end the roleplay. 

It was your decision to change jobs during an RP situation. It is nobody elses responsibility to chase after you to continue an RP

If you were doubting my return, then you should have asked. I stayed on my computer to answer any questions. As again, Zaid can prove. 

Towards the emotions perhaps thrown into it. I felt moreso Welker was troubled. To my opinion, his voice was shaking. Told me he thought I had ill intent and that I had to own up to the consequences. 

I tried to explain my case. Alas, to Welker it seems that real life health does not come before roleplay. It seems petty to me, if I may say such without striking a nerve.

I think that is a great exaggeration. It was 9 am and I had not slept, I was tired. I'd hardly say my voice was shaking. It is my job as a moderator to follow up on such concerns, it is unfortunate you feel following up on rule breakages is petty. 

I felt that my points were blantantly ignored by him. He might not be able to keep his emotions in check, I think. He apparently messaged someone telling that the UBR was a shitshow. Quite odd coming from a moderator that has nothing personal against me. 

I am not pleased with how things have gone, to say the last but I hope you can understand my point of view.

Your entire argument is based on emotions. I am not entirely sure why you're claiming my judgement was emotion based, I hardly know you nor do I really care (Personally) you broke the rules during my RP. I did say to someone over private messages that this UBR was a shit show due to how unnecessarily complicated you have made it.

I understand yours, though I know what my intentions and plans were. You sadly do not. Perhaps I ought to turn the mirror towards you, so we can all learn from this experience. 

Again, you're trying to put the blame elsewhere when you're the one who broke the rules. I understand it is upsetting to be punished for rule breakages however you should learn from the experience instead of reflecting the blame elsewhere. 

I have learnt quite a bit, but I think you all jump to conclusions too quickly. Again, no harm meant with said words.

Have a happy new year as well.

Kimpow Wrote:...I’d like to add that if there was any confusion they were free to contact me. It is not my task, I believe, to simply give IC information on a platter. I did this to lessen the chances of meta-gaming.

Kimpow Wrote:If something isn’t clear, don’t blame the person who gives the information for to thinks  person it will be clear.

Kimpow Wrote:They could have simply asked rather than assume that I swapped character. This again, proves the lack of confidence they have in me as a roleplayer, assuming the worst possible case.

Kimpow Wrote:The rule states that you cannot avoid a roleplay situation, which I did not. You did, by changing to AFK. If you have to take a breather then it is recommended you go AFK instead of disconnecting and inform staff via @. I should have notified the staff via @, however, I felt like telling another staff member via discord was sufficient enough. For the same reasons you discover in this appeal, just over discord voice isn't appropriate. No other staff members would be aware. When I heard said complaints about my departure, I messaged the staff member which sent the message seen in the steam chat, to confirm if it was alright. And by which time, it's too late anyway.

Quote:Perhaps foolishly having had the feeling he knew the situation, for he did tell me about Bambo trying to ban me for something that I already received a warning for.

Kimpow Wrote:I have talked to multiple people on staff and others, asking what to do in this situation. They assured me that a ban, for this reason, was too much. With no priors, nothing on record I get instantly punished with a ban. A permanent warning would have sounded more reasonable.