(Jun 2, 2020, 08:31 PM)Theo Wrote: Our community is not growing, and there's a good reason for that. This reason both serves to limit the appeal to new players and also serves to decrease interest in the game for loyal players. The simple reason for this is a lack of new and interesting content.

New content allows our gamemode to seem more interesting to new people browsing for servers and also adds dept for loyal members of the community. When there is no new content, our gamemode begins to become outdated and unappealing to new players looking for new experiences. And for the loyal members, they gradually fade away as something new catches their eye and our little server becomes forgotten.

This is the state which our server presents itself in today. We are years behind other servers in content, our older players have nothing new to experience, and thus our veteran members are fading away and no new players feel compelled to join.

This also comes into play for the current topic of discussion: toxic community. Communities in games form from people uniting under a common goal. That goal may be becoming rich and powerful through rare items, self motivation and security through a sense of community, and various other reasons. The problem with LimeLight is that there is no common goal amongst players to unite them. Money is too easy to earn, items too easily accessible, and other rewards such as those earned through REPs unsatisfactory or unclear on how to obtain. 

Thus, we have no sense of community other than a few small groups of friends and clans. Unlike clans of the "old days" back on pre-split FL, many of the clans of today are not centered around things like contra whoring or security. Players already have everything they need so why join a clan? Well the answer is simple: a sense of community and also something to do.

Much like a bunch of children locked in a room with nothing to do, they'll start abusing each other for entertainment. Clans are now formed for actions surrounded around confrontations. Whether that may be mild antagonizing or outward aggression, people are so bored to the point that being dicks to each other is the most fun thing to do. And what could be seen as mild banter between friends is seen aggression and annoyances by most players as there is no overarching sense of community and common goal amongst players. 

So what does this all mean? Our server is outdated and lacking anything new to do, leaving potential new players to look elsewhere and older players to fade away. Whoever stays in hopes of things changing and recapturing the glory days they once had where everything felt fresh and exciting are left bored and frustrated. If those loyal players do not end up leaving they typically end up just annoying each other for fun because that's all they have left. 

So how do we fix this? We need a new set of challenges for veteran players to take on. New heights to reach and a satisfying feeling of accomplishment once they reach that goal. Think back to old FL with the gas mask. For you newer players, the CSS Gas Mask suit used to be restricted to people with 10 RPpoints and anyone who had one was seen as the coolest person on the block. That gas mask suit gave someone a feeling of status and accomplishment once they achieved it. 

LL lacks anything like that these days. Give players something to shoot for and truly enjoy. Something which they can show around and have other people admire and envy them for. Like a Skillcape on Runescape or the Gas Mask of old, people need a goal to shoot for. Make it a goal achievable by individuals but more fun to work for with friends. This will slowly grow the interest in the game beyond farming weed and making money and hopefully build a healthy and cooperative community once again.

This was typed on my phone and I text like a boomer. Sorry for any typos.

(Jun 2, 2020, 03:14 PM)Montyfatcat Wrote:

(Jun 2, 2020, 03:12 PM)Mr.Sir Wrote:

(Jun 2, 2020, 03:09 PM)Montyfatcat Wrote: It doesn't, but it helps stop the posturing that happens in the PR section

Do you want more censoring or less? because at this point I have no clue anymore.

I want the PR section to remain only visible between people involved in that particular PR, so as to avoid people using the PR section like a place to publicly air their personal grievances.

(Jun 20, 2020, 10:34 AM)ICEKILLER_99 Wrote: hey guys it's me 

I came back in 2019 for a bit, realized how fucking petty and toxic this community turned out to be and just left again. I got OOC blacklisted for playing music down my mic next to 2 people. Guess why. Because the teacher that was there wanted staff SO BADLY that he reported me for mic-spamming. Sure I was a bit toxic to him before that but he seemed like the kind of person to want power and power only. I honestly can not be asked to play on a server with a bunch of cry babies that will try to do anything to get anyone else on the server banned.

Also where are the near-daily updates we were getting before? Where's the "PROMISED" combat update?

I was recently asked to come back and play by @XxGIORGIOxX‍ and @Nitrogue‍ but I denied that offer mainly due to addon issues but also the absurdly low player count and pettiness.

The gameplay is stale, there's nothing new to do, there's no players

(Jun 21, 2020, 02:15 AM)Tom* Wrote: I feel like people also got to bear in mind that dev and contribs do work as hard as they can to make content but I'm sure its very demotivating when you have certain people who are strangely toxic and then of course the people who directly ridicule the devs for releasing not perfect updates you know.

(Jun 21, 2020, 02:15 AM)Tom* Wrote: I feel like people also got to bear in mind that dev and contribs do work as hard as they can to make content but I'm sure its very demotivating when you have certain people who are strangely toxic and then of course the people who directly ridicule the devs for releasing not perfect updates you know.