(Dec 30, 2018, 01:28 AM)Welker Wrote:

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:15 AM)StephanGH Wrote: I am still confused.

She received a verbal warning for the FearRP. Meaning that that was already concluded. Yet it was still added as a Ban reason.

Then after that she gets a ban reason for "AFK to avoid RP" aswell. When a Staff member told her it's okay...

Everyone learn from this. You can get punished twice for a single offense. And you get banned even if staff says it's okay. Always contact HR for anything you want to do to ensure you won't receive a ban. It's the only way you are save from the dictatorship.

Moderator S1 and S2 can't be trusted on their word. As clearly other Staff don't respect their opinion and decision enough to bother paying attention to what they say.

For real, how was this not a Permanent warning, clearly no Ill intent was used. Staff members were informed of her actions. She showed she wished to continue RP after calming down, further more a Verbal was already issued for the FearRP.

Mind Blowing

EDIT: As for you @"Cole_"‍

Fair enough, I thought I heard it. He said something along the lines atleast. Must've just been directed towards me. As for the Weapons, I truly didn't see them. I was more focused on blocking Line of Sight towards Tibbs (Kim Lawrence) and help her get out somehow. I definitely didn't hear anyone yell STOP, or point their weapons however. And I was paying attention at that point.

And ofcourse, I don't take offense to what you say. I can miss things, just like you could.

Quote:Like I said in the @sit. Regardless of your OOC reasoning, you are required to follow the rules just like everybody else and please don't misconstrued you being warned as getting away with your rules you broke, this is the case for anyone for me, if you break a rule and get warned for it, continue to break the rules. I will punish you for all the rules you have broken. 

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:29 AM)StephanGH Wrote:

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:28 AM)Welker Wrote:

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:15 AM)StephanGH Wrote: I am still confused.

She received a verbal warning for the FearRP. Meaning that that was already concluded. Yet it was still added as a Ban reason.

Then after that she gets a ban reason for "AFK to avoid RP" aswell. When a Staff member told her it's okay...

Everyone learn from this. You can get punished twice for a single offense. And you get banned even if staff says it's okay. Always contact HR for anything you want to do to ensure you won't receive a ban. It's the only way you are save from the dictatorship.

Moderator S1 and S2 can't be trusted on their word. As clearly other Staff don't respect their opinion and decision enough to bother paying attention to what they say.

For real, how was this not a Permanent warning, clearly no Ill intent was used. Staff members were informed of her actions. She showed she wished to continue RP after calming down, further more a Verbal was already issued for the FearRP.

Mind Blowing

EDIT: As for you @"Cole_"‍

Fair enough, I thought I heard it. He said something along the lines atleast. Must've just been directed towards me. As for the Weapons, I truly didn't see them. I was more focused on blocking Line of Sight towards Tibbs (Kim Lawrence) and help her get out somehow. I definitely didn't hear anyone yell STOP, or point their weapons however. And I was paying attention at that point.

And ofcourse, I don't take offense to what you say. I can miss things, just like you could.

Quote:Like I said in the @sit. Regardless of your OOC reasoning, you are required to follow the rules just like everybody else and please don't misconstrued you being warned as getting away with your rules you broke, this is the case for anyone for me, if you break a rule and get warned for it, continue to break the rules. I will punish you for all the rules you have broken. 

Yeah, One small problem with that bull.

SHE DIDN'T BREAK FEARRP A SECOND TIME.
She broke it once, received a Verbal for that. Then didn't break it again. Yet was punished a second time for that same exact situation.

MIND BLOWNNNNNNNNN

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:34 AM)Welker Wrote:

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:29 AM)StephanGH Wrote: Yeah, One small problem with that bull.

SHE DIDN'T BREAK FEARRP A SECOND TIME.
She broke it once, received a Verbal for that. Then didn't break it again. Yet was punished a second time for that same exact situation.

MIND BLOWNNNNNNNNN

Stephan, please calm down. 

The courthouse is a place for civil discussions. As I have stated within my responses earlier if you'd been bothered to read it, the FearRP mostly took place within the vault, you were not present. Realistically you have very little to do with the case. Unless you have some important information or evidence to provide, I see no reason for you to continue with your enraged responses that add nothing to the case.

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:37 AM)StephanGH Wrote:

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:34 AM)Welker Wrote:

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:29 AM)StephanGH Wrote: Yeah, One small problem with that bull.

SHE DIDN'T BREAK FEARRP A SECOND TIME.
She broke it once, received a Verbal for that. Then didn't break it again. Yet was punished a second time for that same exact situation.

MIND BLOWNNNNNNNNN

Stephan, please calm down. 

The courthouse is a place for civil discussions. As I have stated within my responses earlier if you'd been bothered to read it, the FearRP mostly took place within the vault, you were not present. Realistically you have very little to do with the case. Unless you have some important information or evidence to provide, I see no reason for you to continue with your enraged responses that add nothing to the case.

The moment you claim FearRP was broken, I was present in the vault, stop lying in the Courthouse. That's against the rules, you should know this.

As you may know, the vault door is able to be opened and closed. The Fear RP, as I say for a third time. Mostly took place when the vault door was shut and you were on the outside.

Furthermore, it isn't being enraged. It's genuinly being amazed at how little this Staff Team seems to care about eachothers decisions. Do you all even communicate? One staff member says x, Staff member 2 bans us for what Staff Member one said is OKAY to do.

All you've proven in this UBR is that according to you;

1. Even when you are part of when the rule break takes place. That's not enough because RP happened before it which has nothing to do with a rulebreak.

And 2. There is no point in asking S1 S2 Moderators for permission, as it means nothing to other Staff members. We must contact Administrators, preferably even Super Administrators to ensure that we aren't being banned for situations other Moderators say are allright, cause either communication or respect is 0.

Kimpow was banned for something a Staff Member said was alright, furthermore we have added ban reasons which she already received punishment for. Makes no sense.

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:46 AM)Welker Wrote:

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:37 AM)StephanGH Wrote:

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:34 AM)Welker Wrote: Stephan, please calm down. 

The courthouse is a place for civil discussions. As I have stated within my responses earlier if you'd been bothered to read it, the FearRP mostly took place within the vault, you were not present. Realistically you have very little to do with the case. Unless you have some important information or evidence to provide, I see no reason for you to continue with your enraged responses that add nothing to the case.

The moment you claim FearRP was broken, I was present in the vault, stop lying in the Courthouse. That's against the rules, you should know this.

As you may know, the vault door is able to be opened and closed. The Fear RP, as I say for a third time. Mostly took place when the vault door was shut and you were on the outside.

Furthermore, it isn't being enraged. It's genuinly being amazed at how little this Staff Team seems to care about eachothers decisions. Do you all even communicate? One staff member says x, Staff member 2 bans us for what Staff Member one said is OKAY to do.

All you've proven in this UBR is that according to you;

1. Even when you are part of when the rule break takes place. That's not enough because RP happened before it which has nothing to do with a rulebreak.

And 2. There is no point in asking S1 S2 Moderators for permission, as it means nothing to other Staff members. We must contact Administrators, preferably even Super Administrators to ensure that we aren't being banned for situations other Moderators say are allright, cause either communication or respect is 0.

Kimpow was banned for something a Staff Member said was alright, furthermore we have added ban reasons which she already received punishment for. Makes no sense.

As for so called permission, it was given about 20 minutes after asking. Making it dubious at best, much like asking for permission to break NLR, you must explicitly have the permission for it before doing it, asking is simply not enough. Along with this, there is no context mentioning that Kimpow would be going AFK in the midst of an RP situation. Ultimately it is changing jobs to avoid RP.

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:53 AM)Kimpow Wrote: As said, the fearRP situation has been dealt with and I believe had no reason to be put in the ban reason. It makes you appear indecisive and not quite sure about how this situation should have been dealt with.

For the second supposed rule breakage. I have proof pointing towards the fact I did return in an attempt to continue the roleplay. Yet, it is still not believed even though my private messages can still be found in the logs. Again, I also had permission from a staff member, telling me it was quite alright to take a breather.

For the context, I again apologise for the inconvenience. Searching through the evidence posted above, I saw I missed one screenshot. I’ll add this one below:



The picture proves again, it was allowed and suggested.
Please, do let me know what you think.

Kind regards,
Kimpow

(Dec 30, 2018, 02:00 AM)Welker Wrote:

(Dec 30, 2018, 01:53 AM)Kimpow Wrote: As said, the fearRP situation has been dealt with and I believe had no reason to be put in the ban reason. It makes you appear indecisive and not quite sure about how this situation should have been dealt with.

For the second supposed rule breakage. I have proof pointing towards the fact I did return in an attempt to continue the roleplay. Yet, it is still not believed even though my private messages can still be found in the logs. Again, I also had permission from a staff member, telling me it was quite alright to take a breather.

For the context, I again apologise for the inconvenience. Searching through the evidence posted above, I saw I missed one screenshot. I’ll add this one below:



The picture proves again, it was allowed and suggested.
Please, do let me know what you think.

Kind regards,
Kimpow

Again with the context, this could have been said by anyone about anything. This screenshot was taken roughly  25 minutes before this whole situation even happened, if I am not mistaken. Unfortunately time zones can be quite confusing. So I don't see how you could have been asking for permission to leave the server/change jobs in the RP situation when it had not even happened yet. I'd really hope you're not trying to be misleading on the court house.

If you want your evidence to be taken seriously I strongly suggest you post the entire thing.

(Dec 30, 2018, 02:06 AM)Cole_ Wrote: The difference is @Kimpow‍ , word from an anonymous member of staff who may not even be directly involved in the situation means absolutely nothing. They might not know any context to the situation and therefore be basing their answer off of an assumption. I'm fairly certain I, and staff, know who the staff member is but I'll keep that out of this UBR to avoid arguments.

(Dec 30, 2018, 02:37 AM)Wesley Lawrence Wrote:

(Dec 30, 2018, 02:06 AM)Cole_ Wrote: The difference is @Kimpow‍ , word from an anonymous member of staff who may not even be directly involved in the situation means absolutely nothing. They might not know any context to the situation and therefore be basing their answer off of an assumption. I'm fairly certain I, and staff, know who the staff member is but I'll keep that out of this UBR to avoid arguments.

As you're obviously shoving that towards my direction here and in fact didn't keep it out of the UBR to avoid arguments, I'll give my one and only piece in this. ''Staff'', whoever that might be you're talking about, should know who it is because I provided them with an @-mention in the staff Discord. This is because the staff member that it's regarding, is not around at the moment. I will not go into detail about that further, as he can talk for himself. Then again, this is something you couldn't have possibly known as you have no access to the moderation channel on the Limelight team Discord whatsoever.

Now let's refrain from pointing fingers here, actually look at the evidence and have someone evaluate it properly and conclude it instead of the unnecessary back and forths that have been going on.

(Dec 30, 2018, 02:51 AM)Kimpow Wrote: @Cole_ I was quite upset, therefore trying to distance myself from those I am not quite familiar with in order to re-collect myself. For me, your statement doesn't quite make as much sense.