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RE: George Floyd - Catfish - Jun 7, 2020
(Jun 6, 2020, 09:24 PM)Ocelotus Wrote:Surely blue lives matter falls under that category. Officers being shot and killed just for wearing the uniform sounds a lot like violent discrimination to me.(Jun 6, 2020, 09:04 PM)Faustin Wrote: Just because you disagree with my opinion doesn't make it stupid.
i don't disagree with your opinion hun. all lives do matter. but this is not the time for that shit. right now people are talking about black lives because they're the ones who are being discriminated against by our government and police. nobody ever said that only black lives matter.
RE: George Floyd - Ocelotus - Jun 7, 2020
violent discrimination? like when cops kill innocent black people?
RE: George Floyd - Venom - Jun 7, 2020
(Jun 7, 2020, 04:00 AM)Ocelotus Wrote: violent discrimination? like when cops kill innocent black people?
it's not violent discrimination when it doesn't happen very often
RE: George Floyd - Ocelotus - Jun 7, 2020
if only we had a government that cared about it’s citizens 😔
RE: George Floyd - Hungames - Jun 7, 2020
(Jun 7, 2020, 05:56 AM)Ocelotus Wrote:(Jun 7, 2020, 04:46 AM)Venom Wrote:(Jun 7, 2020, 04:00 AM)Ocelotus Wrote: violent discrimination? like when cops kill innocent black people?
it's not violent discrimination when it doesn't happen very often
just because it doesn't happen very often doesn't change the fact that innocent people are being murdered by police officers and black people in america are much more likely to be murdered by police than any other race.
The percentage of African-Americans killed by police is much greater than the population numbers, but the representation of African-Americans in violent crime statistics is extremely close to the percentage killed by police. When crime occurs, the police are called and it can escalate to violence. Obviously any death by a cop is sad, especially in a situation like George Floyd, but officers are charged when they wrongly kill people. Every death is investigated and the prosecutor determines if the death was justified or not. If it is not justified, they face legal action.
also,
(Jun 7, 2020, 01:36 AM)Catfish Wrote: Surely blue lives matter falls under that category. Officers being shot and killed just for wearing the uniform sounds a lot like violent discrimination to me.
1. im pretty sure police officers are alive so yes, they fall under "all lives matter"
2. of course, i dont agree with them being killed but its obvious why its happening. our justice system has been flawed for so long and people are finally fed up with it. and there are a lot of police who will defend each other no matter what just because theyre "brothers in blue" even when they know their fellow officers are breaking the law or doing something that isnt right.
Why do you think cops are so unwilling to turn against the people they work with? First of all, they trust their fellow officers with their life. That's a big responsibility. Second, it's partly because of the public opinion like what is happening after George Floyd's death. There are people torching buildings and killing cops because they don't like the police. Mayors and prosecutors in left-wing areas are publicly anti-cop and constantly attack the police for everything. When they are constantly attacked, they band together.
The more recent charge to #DefundThePolice is a perfect example of the sentiment. People actually think that taking money away from the police or eliminating the police altogether will make things better. Just using simple logic proves that it will make it worse. How do police get better at their jobs? Training. What pays for training? Funding. The police will only get worse if they lose money. Pay cuts will obviously occur so talented recruits will abandon low-paying departments for better ones. It's an utterly terrible idea, but people believe in it. The cops band together to fight it and rightfully they should.
unless our government starts caring, this shit will just keep happening. and from what it seems, our presidents only plan is to hide in a bunker and let the police and military attack the citizens of the country hes supposed to be leading.
Policing is regulated at the state and local levels, as it should. The president does not have a duty in controlling local affairs. The differences between cities in different states are massive so policies at the national level are very likely to be destructive and inconsiderate of local differences.
RE: George Floyd - Nev - Jun 7, 2020
(Jun 7, 2020, 05:56 AM)Ocelotus Wrote: black people in america are much more likely to be murdered by police than any other race.
And this is the fault of <law enforcement> and/or <other races> (?)
You do realize that African-American communities are impacted by policing because they're more likely to be involved in criminal activity- It's not disproportional, it's proportional to the actual amount of crime being committed.
You can't be one of those individuals that blames everybody else for why African-American communities are suffering and make excuses as to which systemic faults have been in-place and that this is why they have been kept in a relatively low socioeconomic place in the United States. The disadvantages they face have nothing to do with 'white privilege' and everything to do with poor parenting, lack of education and their cultural inclination to be associated with criminal activities that are perpetuated as cool through the rap scene. Their lack of quality education might've been a result of red-lining, but continues to suffer because of the community backlash against gentrification that would bring about community improvements, street beautification as well as significant increases in property tax revenues that are the very thing that fund the schools, after-school programs and all else that is needed to ensure that kids are safe and staying off the streets.
(Jun 7, 2020, 05:56 AM)Ocelotus Wrote: Of course, I don't agree with them being killed but its obvious why its happening. Our justice system has been flawed for so long and people are finally fed up with it.You speak as if you are somehow involved in the justice system and have some insight into the world of criminal justice. You're an edgy teen that probably watches BuzzFeed and thinks they're woke. Secondly, the only people that are saying the justice system is flawed are those that are shocked that when consequences come to those who break the law- and this is most apparent in those that have a stance against putting people away for non-violent crimes.
You know what people should be fed up with? This idea that you are somehow disadvantaged because of your skin color. This idea is repeated by the mainstream media, sympathetic white people and edgy POC on social media.
The one thing that will be a disadvantage is your socioeconomic status, household income and most importantly just your personal character traits. In these areas, you are on level playing ground. You have every opportunity to be successful and competitive to others. You can smoke joints, listen to music and fuck around- or you can get a job at 17 and start working to be financially independent. You can enroll in a community college (affordable) or even a trade school that can get you on the path to work in fields that are underappreciated, such as electricians and mechanics, but pay competitively with salaries above 100K annually. You know what you should be fed up with? The idea that you have to be slinging dope or participating in illegal activities to have street cred or whatever the fuck these songs talk about. It's the reason our entire generation is such shit. People don't want to work- and that extends across all races but is most relevant in the African-American communities. There is no magic fix until African-American youth come to understand this.
RE: George Floyd - C Lee - Jun 7, 2020
When 13% of the population, commits more than 50% of murders and robberies, two of the most prominent crimes in policing. Its no surprise that they are interacting with the police more.
Black Lives Matter should be about improving the lives of black people. Not blaming police. They were calling a mayor to disband the police department yesterday.
And from what I know, its some what being taken seriously.
https://www.insider.com/minneapolis-city-council-members-look-to-disband-police-department-2020-6
"Ward 3 Councilmember Steve Fletcher announced the effort on social media, saying that he and other councilmembers are looking to "disband" the Minneapolis Police Department, calling it "ungovernable" and "irredeemably beyond reform." Without any historical precedent, there's no easy path forward."
RE: George Floyd - give me the gamemode - Jun 7, 2020
(Jun 6, 2020, 04:41 PM)Klinex Wrote:(Jun 2, 2020, 11:48 PM)Faustin Wrote:(Jun 2, 2020, 11:47 PM)Quest Wrote: @"Faustin" Wow you really think that this movement is all about riots and looting; you are part of this problem. How is it that every other BLM protest in London so far has been peaceful then? Stop spreading fear when all these people are trying to spread is love and equality.
#AllLivesMatter
how you look rn
Imagine how you must look then thinking that the 6 bad cops in america are a more important issue than the 1 million Muslims in Chinese internment camps, or the millions of modern day slaves, or the millions of homeless people. Get a fucking grip.
RE: George Floyd - give me the gamemode - Jun 7, 2020
(Jun 7, 2020, 04:00 AM)Ocelotus Wrote: violent discrimination? like when cops kill innocent black people?
Or when cops kill innocent white people? Or asian people? Or latina/o's?
Ever since the start of his campaign I thought Trump was a conspiracy theorising fool when he talked about media manipulation, crazy to see that he was right all along lmao
RE: George Floyd - Catfish - Jun 7, 2020
Edit: I was being big dumb and didn’t actually read what I was responding to dont get mad plz
RE: George Floyd - Project - Jun 7, 2020
In a democratic country, regardless of who dies, there needs to be accountability on either side.
When someone kills a cop, we arrest the killer and honor the officer.
When a cop kills someone, we make the medical examiner lie and say that he died of natural causes, killer receives no repercussion and is free to kill again, some may say that this encourages them to kill again.
No-one should die for a selling a loose cigarette.
No-one should die for using a fake $20.
Someone should be held accountable for shooting uncontrollably while raiding the wrong house, while plain clothes, no-knock warrant, in the middle of the night, without making themselves known which results on them killing your girlfriend because you fired back your legal firearm thinking you were being robbed.
Also, if I go out and raid a store, the group that is protesting peacefully should not be attacked or targeted for my criminal actions. They should point me out, they should give me up to the police, but they should not be getting targeted or assumed that they are associated with me because I say I associate with them.
RE: George Floyd - C Lee - Jun 7, 2020
(Jun 7, 2020, 06:52 PM)Project Wrote: When a cop kills someone, we make the medical examiner lie and say that he died of natural causes, killer receives no repercussion and is free to kill again, some may say that this encourages them to kill again.
Proof?
Because George Floyd was proven twice to have had died of asphyxiation, just the media jumped the gun with the preliminary report. And it was reported on Monday evening, before the private report was released, that it was asphyxiation.
RE: George Floyd - Klinex - Jun 7, 2020
(Jun 7, 2020, 03:00 PM)Tails Wrote:(Jun 6, 2020, 04:41 PM)Klinex Wrote:(Jun 2, 2020, 11:48 PM)Faustin Wrote: #AllLivesMatter
how you look rn
Imagine how you must look then thinking that the 6 bad cops in america are a more important issue than the 1 million Muslims in Chinese internment camps, or the millions of modern day slaves, or the millions of homeless people. Get a fucking grip.
imagine how you look thinking this is only about 6 bad cops
RE: George Floyd - Markus - Jun 8, 2020
(Jun 7, 2020, 07:02 AM)Nev Wrote: -snip-
So, who do you think is at fault for George Floyd's murder? Just so I can get a quick TL;DR.
RE: George Floyd - C Lee - Jun 8, 2020
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/majority-minneapolis-city-council-commits-dismantling-city-s-police-department-n1227116
A majority of the Minneapolis City Council agreed Sunday to dismantle the city’s police department