Dec 6, 2015, 11:30 PM
(Dec 6, 2015, 09:46 PM)Arch.B Wrote: [ -> ]The last time a police man shot a person he was dicplied and almost sacked. Tazers are always better
Tasers always better even if he want to stab and kill you?
Dec 6, 2015, 11:30 PM
Dec 6, 2015, 11:52 PM
(Dec 6, 2015, 11:08 PM)George Wrote: [ -> ]The taser didn't take him down...they taze him and he's still standing. Therefore it was ineffective. They had to go hands on when the person was wielding a knife. Which as I said is extremely risky, but it worked.(Dec 6, 2015, 09:53 PM)Venom Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 09:33 PM)George Wrote: [ -> ]They are weapons, but I'm obviously referring to firearms as that is what I've been talking about the whole time. The taser wasn't effective at all, if you take a look at the video here(Dec 6, 2015, 07:17 PM)Venom Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 06:21 PM)Project Wrote: [ -> ]Well weapons were drawn probably incase he tried to attacked them.I didn't see any weapons in the video taken
Tasers are weapons.
The taser was pretty effective, it took the assailant down without killing him and no officers were injured.
British police aren't given lethal weaponry as standard which something which I agree with. Tasers get the job done and we don't have to hear about any unlawful killings in the news.https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35018789.
It took the assailant down. Therefore it was effective.
Dec 7, 2015, 02:34 AM
(Dec 6, 2015, 11:30 PM)Amity Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 09:46 PM)Arch.B Wrote: [ -> ]The last time a police man shot a person he was dicplied and almost sacked. Tazers are always better
Tasers always better even if he want to stab and kill you?
Mate, he had a knife not a gun. The Metropolitan Police are trained to handle people with knifes, it's London knife attacks happen there all the time. They all seemed to be wearing stab proof vests so they could tackle him in numbers regardless of him being tazed. Whats the point in shooting him dead, he needs to be trialled in court police should be able to handle one man with a knife without having to shoot him.
Dec 7, 2015, 08:38 AM
(Dec 7, 2015, 02:34 AM)Dauntless Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 11:30 PM)Amity Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 09:46 PM)Arch.B Wrote: [ -> ]The last time a police man shot a person he was dicplied and almost sacked. Tazers are always better
Tasers always better even if he want to stab and kill you?
Mate, he had a knife not a gun. The Metropolitan Police are trained to handle people with knifes, it's London knife attacks happen there all the time. They all seemed to be wearing stab proof vests so they could tackle him in numbers regardless of him being tazed. Whats the point in shooting him dead, he needs to be trialled in court police should be able to handle one man with a knife without having to shoot him.
Ok, so lets say that 2 terrorists run in london streets with a knife, and stab people and keep running and stabbing.
the police will chase them with tazers?
Or they will ran over people in bus stop and after start stabbing them, they should still be tazed?
SO PLEASE..
Dec 7, 2015, 04:11 PM
(Dec 7, 2015, 08:38 AM)Amity Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 7, 2015, 02:34 AM)Dauntless Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 11:30 PM)Amity Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 09:46 PM)Arch.B Wrote: [ -> ]The last time a police man shot a person he was dicplied and almost sacked. Tazers are always better
Tasers always better even if he want to stab and kill you?
Mate, he had a knife not a gun. The Metropolitan Police are trained to handle people with knifes, it's London knife attacks happen there all the time. They all seemed to be wearing stab proof vests so they could tackle him in numbers regardless of him being tazed. Whats the point in shooting him dead, he needs to be trialled in court police should be able to handle one man with a knife without having to shoot him.
Ok, so lets say that 2 terrorists run in london streets with a knife, and stab people and keep running and stabbing.
the police will chase them with tazers?
Or they will ran over people in bus stop and after start stabbing them, they should still be tazed?
SO PLEASE..
In the video which we are talking about the man was surrounded by police. He was not in the middle of stabbing people, so the police should have no reason to shoot him dead. Of course if they are putting other peoples lifes at risks they should be stopped by any means necessary, if 2 terrorists were attacking London a firearms unit would be called in as normal police do not have guns and they would be apprehended by them or normal police could try to take them on. You clearly miss-read my post, this isn't Israel and America shooting someone is a last resort and is done by professionals, not ordinary police. Police are trained to tackle people with knifes without guns.
Dec 7, 2015, 04:27 PM
A spiffing job by the police.
See, in the UK we don't just resort to killing criminals, which I am glad for.
As someone already pointed out, this just accentuates the need to be vigilant. Quite scary considering the frequency I use London's public transport, just like millions of other people every day; I just hope they are all handled similar to this with no deaths.
See, in the UK we don't just resort to killing criminals, which I am glad for.
As someone already pointed out, this just accentuates the need to be vigilant. Quite scary considering the frequency I use London's public transport, just like millions of other people every day; I just hope they are all handled similar to this with no deaths.
Dec 7, 2015, 07:37 PM
Quote:Following the attack, extra uniformed and undercover police, backed by a growing force of armed officers, have been drafted in to protect London’s underground network.-
One former commander said it was alarming that armed officers were not at the scene on Saturday.
John O'Connor, a former commander of London's elite police unit, the Flying Squad, said: “It is alarming. We should have thought about this years ago.
"We still rely on the first people on the scene having to deal with a situation, whoever they are, whether a uniform officer or firearms officer.”
Dec 9, 2015, 10:33 AM
(Dec 7, 2015, 02:08 PM)Chocolate Labrador Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 7, 2015, 08:38 AM)Amity Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 7, 2015, 02:34 AM)Dauntless Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 11:30 PM)Amity Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 09:46 PM)Arch.B Wrote: [ -> ]The last time a police man shot a person he was dicplied and almost sacked. Tazers are always better
Tasers a""lways better even if he want to stab and kill you?
Mate, he had a knife not a gun. The Metropolitan Police are trained to handle people with knifes, it's London knife attacks happen there all the time. They all seemed to be wearing stab proof vests so they could tackle him in numbers regardless of him being tazed. Whats the point in shooting him dead, he needs to be trialled in court police should be able to handle one man with a knife without having to shoot him.
Ok, so lets say that 2 terrorists run in london streets with a knife, and stab people and keep running and stabbing.
the police will chase them with tazers?
Or they will ran over people in bus stop and after start stabbing them, they should still be tazed?
SO PLEASE..
Lee Rigby Incident.
https://youtu.be/FY4qrFFxqxg
They were shot and killed, It takes a toll on everyone. EVERYONE.
they weren't shot and killed; they were only shot at.
"The assailants, armed with a cleaver and brandishing a gun, charged at the police, who fired shots that wounded them both. They were apprehended and taken to separate hospitals"
Dec 9, 2015, 05:42 PM
(Dec 7, 2015, 04:11 PM)Dauntless Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 7, 2015, 08:38 AM)Amity Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 7, 2015, 02:34 AM)Dauntless Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 11:30 PM)Amity Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 09:46 PM)Arch.B Wrote: [ -> ]The last time a police man shot a person he was dicplied and almost sacked. Tazers are always better
Tasers always better even if he want to stab and kill you?
Mate, he had a knife not a gun. The Metropolitan Police are trained to handle people with knifes, it's London knife attacks happen there all the time. They all seemed to be wearing stab proof vests so they could tackle him in numbers regardless of him being tazed. Whats the point in shooting him dead, he needs to be trialled in court police should be able to handle one man with a knife without having to shoot him.
Ok, so lets say that 2 terrorists run in london streets with a knife, and stab people and keep running and stabbing.
the police will chase them with tazers?
Or they will ran over people in bus stop and after start stabbing them, they should still be tazed?
SO PLEASE..
In the video which we are talking about the man was surrounded by police. He was not in the middle of stabbing people, so the police should have no reason to shoot him dead. Of course if they are putting other peoples lifes at risks they should be stopped by any means necessary, if 2 terrorists were attacking London a firearms unit would be called in as normal police do not have guns and they would be apprehended by them or normal police could try to take them on. You clearly miss-read my post, this isn't Israel and America shooting someone is a last resort and is done by professionals, not ordinary police. Police are trained to tackle people with knifes without guns.
Shooting someone in America is a last resort, FYI. Don't go throwing out words with nothing to back it up.
Dec 9, 2015, 10:08 PM
(Dec 6, 2015, 07:11 PM)Amity Wrote: [ -> ]Why they didnt shot him
We do things differently here in Britain - we very rarely quote-on-quote "shoot first ask questions later"
Dec 9, 2015, 11:29 PM
Dec 10, 2015, 09:07 AM
The thing is the terrorists want to be killed, I'd prefer to see them living the rest of their lives out in a jail cell where they don't want to be.
Dec 11, 2015, 06:13 PM
(Dec 9, 2015, 05:42 PM)AVenom Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 7, 2015, 04:11 PM)Dauntless Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 7, 2015, 08:38 AM)Amity Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 7, 2015, 02:34 AM)Dauntless Wrote: [ -> ](Dec 6, 2015, 11:30 PM)Amity Wrote: [ -> ]Tasers always better even if he want to stab and kill you?
Mate, he had a knife not a gun. The Metropolitan Police are trained to handle people with knifes, it's London knife attacks happen there all the time. They all seemed to be wearing stab proof vests so they could tackle him in numbers regardless of him being tazed. Whats the point in shooting him dead, he needs to be trialled in court police should be able to handle one man with a knife without having to shoot him.
Ok, so lets say that 2 terrorists run in london streets with a knife, and stab people and keep running and stabbing.
the police will chase them with tazers?
Or they will ran over people in bus stop and after start stabbing them, they should still be tazed?
SO PLEASE..
In the video which we are talking about the man was surrounded by police. He was not in the middle of stabbing people, so the police should have no reason to shoot him dead. Of course if they are putting other peoples lifes at risks they should be stopped by any means necessary, if 2 terrorists were attacking London a firearms unit would be called in as normal police do not have guns and they would be apprehended by them or normal police could try to take them on. You clearly miss-read my post, this isn't Israel and America shooting someone is a last resort and is done by professionals, not ordinary police. Police are trained to tackle people with knifes without guns.
Shooting someone in America is a last resort, FYI. Don't go throwing out words with nothing to back it up.
It is a last resort yes, but clearly not in some cases. I'm not going to base my opinion of a whole nation and be a hypocrite because of a bunch of cops, Ireland still treats women like shit and my government are dumb af. I was actually in college this week for a mini course and 2 Americans were studying in the college and were supervising the course I was at, a woman from Texas and a man from Boston I was talking to them about the police abusing firearms and they both said American police abuse guns at times and said cameras were needed. When I get back home I will put up some sources.
Dec 11, 2015, 08:07 PM
Sometimes cases of police abusing their authority are pretty clear cut and dried, and sometimes they aren't. Chicago being one of the more controversial police shootings that people are raving about tight now; and then there's cases such as the Ohio shooting of a 12 year old carrying a pellet gun, or the Michael Brown case. Either way, I don't care if police carry guns here. There are more good cops then there are bad cops.
Dec 11, 2015, 11:49 PM
(Dec 11, 2015, 08:07 PM)Toxic Wrote: [ -> ]Sometimes cases of police abusing their authority are pretty clear cut and dried, and sometimes they aren't. Chicago being one of the more controversial police shootings that people are raving about tight now; and then there's cases such as the Ohio shooting of a 12 year old carrying a pellet gun, or the Michael Brown case. Either way, I don't care if police carry guns here. There are more good cops then there are bad cops.
I completely agree with you, there are plenty of good cops in the states than the bad ones pitty the bad ones dominate the headlines.