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(Jul 10, 2019, 12:15 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:ARTICLE XVI. LAW AND ORDER WITH JUSTICE 

Section 1. Gun Rights 

A. We support the right of the individual to keep and bear arms, as guaranteed by the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and article one section eleven of the Idaho State Constitution. 
B. We commend the efforts of organizations to preserve and foster that right, including Right-to-Carry laws. 
C. We believe the federal government should not regulate intrastate ammunition and firearms sales.
D. We believe in the protection of the American firearms industry against harassing lawsuits that blame them for the acts of criminals. 
E. We call for more enforcement of current laws against violent criminals, not more “gun control” aimed at law-abiding citizens. 
F. We strongly oppose the United States entering into any international agreements or treaties which would undermine, limit or interfere with the individual right to own and bear arms and ammunition. 
G. We find that the Congress violated the 2nd amendment’s protections in the 1986 Firearms’ Owners Protection H. Act when the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) interpreted the Hughes Amendment as a prohibition on the civilian possession of any fully-automatic firearm manufactured after May 19, 1986. 

(Jul 10, 2019, 06:41 PM)Jeff Ford Wrote: [ -> ]

And in what conceivable way do you intend to place greater regulations on criminals that do not impact the law-abiding civilian populace? The very nature of gun-control regulation is that it targets EVERYONE, regardless of criminal status. You can't institute stronger background checks without imposing the same rules on everybody. The purpose of a background check is to determine criminal status and other extenuating factors that prevent buying a firearm. How would a system be able to only target criminals, without conducting a background check to the background check? 

And why are you giving out guns left, right, and 'centre'? You claim to want to strengthen regulation in your "On the Issues" statement (" I personally believe that the vetting system should be strengthened, so that weapons do not get in the hands of those who wish to do harm."). Wouldn't giving out guns "left, right, and centre" be a violation of the platform you run on?

And furthermore, how are you to determine which people want to "do harm to your friends, family, etc."? Wouldn't that require an extensive background check that includes mental health status, questioning those around the applicant, etc.? Soon enough it's going to be easier to get a high-security clearance than it is to get a gun. And by the way, expanding background checks means more regulation. 

Illogical bullshit like this makes me wanna vote for the fascists.

Regards,
A Happy Conservative

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(Jul 11, 2019, 12:08 AM)Hungames Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jul 10, 2019, 06:41 PM)Jeff Ford Wrote: [ -> ]

And in what conceivable way do you intend to place greater regulations on criminals that do not impact the law-abiding civilian populace? The very nature of gun-control regulation is that it targets EVERYONE, regardless of criminal status. You can't institute stronger background checks without imposing the same rules on everybody. The purpose of a background check is to determine criminal status and other extenuating factors that prevent buying a firearm. How would a system be able to only target criminals, without conducting a background check to the background check? 

And why are you giving out guns left, right, and 'centre'? You claim to want to strengthen regulation in your "On the Issues" statement (" I personally believe that the vetting system should be strengthened, so that weapons do not get in the hands of those who wish to do harm."). Wouldn't giving out guns "left, right, and centre" be a violation of the platform you run on?

And furthermore, how are you to determine which people want to "do harm to your friends, family, etc."? Wouldn't that require an extensive background check that includes mental health status, questioning those around the applicant, etc.? Soon enough it's going to be easier to get a high-security clearance than it is to get a gun. And by the way, expanding background checks means more regulation. 

Illogical bullshit like this makes me wanna vote for the fascists.

Regards,
A Happy Conservative

This message is not endorsed or created by the Conservative Party.

Let's be clear on one thing.

We are talking about concealed carry weapon permits here, nothing more, nothing less. 

We care about strengthening open carry laws, and ensuring that this vital right is protected for all to enjoy. 

Now, I understand the concerns about Liberal gun control policy, but at the end of the day what you should be worrying about is the gun control policy of the National Socialist Party of Idaho and Idaho Union Of Fascists who openly seek to disarm the populace and take your guns away "for the greater good". You might think that this is not a concern, but at last released polls the Nazis were polling second to the Liberals, and yesterday they were polling at first ahead of the Liberals.

The Nazis and Fascists want to take away your guns. They openly admit this in their statements and in last night's debate. Notwithstanding this, the Labour Party also wants to increase regulation on firearms, completely banning handguns and concealed carry, and allowing those open carrying rifles to only carry 200 rounds of ammunition, aggressively stating "WHAT IS YOUR PURPOSE [for 200 rounds of ammunition]" in last night's debate.

Liberals stand to protect your Second Ammendment.

Vote Liberal.