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Involved - I was part of this hostage attempt with Tom.

I was of course downed early, but from your video alone it is pretty evident that you were trying to get the president to call for help while an armed man is in there. That alone is enough for a man in such a situation to shoot you in my opinion. Add to that that Tom's character was under fire and you have got a pretty volatile situation. He made an example. Simple as that in my eyes.

(Jan 24, 2019, 09:22 PM)Oneshott Wrote: [ -> ]Involved - I was part of this hostage attempt with Tom.

I was of course downed early, but from your video alone it is pretty evident that you were trying to get the president to call for help while an armed man is in there. That alone is enough for a man in such a situation to shoot you in my opinion. Add to that that Tom's character was under fire and you have got a pretty volatile situation. He made an example. Simple as that in my eyes.

I heard you say to the President do a Panic alarm. So I made an example of you. My character was in a state of panic, I told you guys to get in the Room, I wasn't there for you. I made an example out of you, an invaluable target.

It was determined in-game by Welker that no Rules were broken. He would know best because he was there himself.

In the moment the president already made a Radio call as you can see from the Video so I don't believe shooting someone for being scared and telling someone to call the cops as he's scared is a reason to Kill him? Like do u not think they havent already been called? the President is under his Desk and was given no orders what do you expect him to just "Not call Police" Also its kinda unrealistic to Shoot a hostage just because i said call the police as IC i would have been scared shitless and that's literally the most Common thing that a Scared hostage would say.

Scared hostages do NOT try to be a hero typically. Whether or not "Tom would think whether or not police has already been called" is irrelevant. You directly opposed the will of the hostage taker by trying to be a hero. You call it scared. Fine. 

Whether the president called the cops or not seems quite irrelevant as well. It's far more relevant whether Tom knew this. Which you have no way of knowing, especially in character. You thought the following, and i quote:

Quote:"Another SSA shot at him so while he was distracted i told the pres to call the police"

To me that tells me:
1. Your character was not a whimpering scared child, but a hostage that was aware of what was going on and thought they had a window of opportunity. 

2. Your character tried to call for help and got killed for it. 

I dont see why it is unrealistic to shoot such a hostage, especially when you have the president as one of the hostages and he is your target. He was our only goal in there.

(Jan 24, 2019, 09:36 PM)Oneshott Wrote: [ -> ]Scared hostages do NOT try to be a hero typically. Whether or not "Tom would think whether or not police has already been called" is irrelevant. You directly opposed the will of the hostage taker by trying to be a hero. You call it scared. Fine. 

Whether the president called the cops or not seems quite irrelevant as well. It's far more relevant whether Tom knew this. Which you have no way of knowing, especially in character. You thought the following, and i quote:

Quote:"Another SSA shot at him so while he was distracted i told the pres to call the police"

To me that tells me:
1. Your character was not a whimpering scared child, but a hostage that was aware of what was going on and thought they had a window of opportunity. 

2. Your character tried to call for help and got killed for it. 

I dont see why it is unrealistic to shoot such a hostage, especially when you have the president as one of the hostages and he is your target. He was our only goal in there.

As a Hostage, and being placed Under FearRp you have to act Scared, Being a hostage and witnessing 3 deaths infront of a Normal citizens eyes, Yeah you can say that's pretty terrifying and Yes im gonna tell the president to call for help as im scared for my life and i was nearly being shot inbetween the Gun fight.

(Jan 24, 2019, 09:39 PM)Zaidplays Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jan 24, 2019, 09:36 PM)Oneshott Wrote: [ -> ]Scared hostages do NOT try to be a hero typically. Whether or not "Tom would think whether or not police has already been called" is irrelevant. You directly opposed the will of the hostage taker by trying to be a hero. You call it scared. Fine. 

Whether the president called the cops or not seems quite irrelevant as well. It's far more relevant whether Tom knew this. Which you have no way of knowing, especially in character. You thought the following, and i quote:

Quote:"Another SSA shot at him so while he was distracted i told the pres to call the police"

To me that tells me:
1. Your character was not a whimpering scared child, but a hostage that was aware of what was going on and thought they had a window of opportunity. 

2. Your character tried to call for help and got killed for it. 

I dont see why it is unrealistic to shoot such a hostage, especially when you have the president as one of the hostages and he is your target. He was our only goal in there.

As a Hostage, and being placed Under FearRp you have to act Scared, Being a hostage and witnessing 3 deaths infront of a Normal citizens eyes, Yeah you can say that's pretty terrifying and Yes im gonna tell the president to call for help as im scared for my life and i was nearly being shot inbetween the Gun fight.

I would agree with being scared. I would not agree with 
1. Your character looking for that window of opportunity to act upon being scared
"Another SSA shot at him so while he was distracted i told the pres to call the police"


2. That Tom's character could see that as setting an example and thus having a proper reason to kill you.

(Jan 24, 2019, 09:42 PM)Oneshott Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jan 24, 2019, 09:39 PM)Zaidplays Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jan 24, 2019, 09:36 PM)Oneshott Wrote: [ -> ]Scared hostages do NOT try to be a hero typically. Whether or not "Tom would think whether or not police has already been called" is irrelevant. You directly opposed the will of the hostage taker by trying to be a hero. You call it scared. Fine. 

Whether the president called the cops or not seems quite irrelevant as well. It's far more relevant whether Tom knew this. Which you have no way of knowing, especially in character. You thought the following, and i quote:



To me that tells me:
1. Your character was not a whimpering scared child, but a hostage that was aware of what was going on and thought they had a window of opportunity. 

2. Your character tried to call for help and got killed for it. 

I dont see why it is unrealistic to shoot such a hostage, especially when you have the president as one of the hostages and he is your target. He was our only goal in there.

As a Hostage, and being placed Under FearRp you have to act Scared, Being a hostage and witnessing 3 deaths infront of a Normal citizens eyes, Yeah you can say that's pretty terrifying and Yes im gonna tell the president to call for help as im scared for my life and i was nearly being shot inbetween the Gun fight.

I would agree with being scared. I would not agree with 
1. Your character looking for that window of opportunity to act upon being scared
"Another SSA shot at him so while he was distracted i told the pres to call the police"


2. That Tom's character could see that as setting an example and thus having a proper reason to kill you.

As i said before the president was not under gun point as he was broadcasting to the whole police force he was that hes in his Officer scared and as you can clearly see from the Video i supplied he already made that radio call before i was killed. So me saying it literally made no difference and i believe if im nearly being shot at and witnessing deaths So gore then The least i can do is act afraid and want to be Rescued.

8. Do not post reports if you know the incident has been dealt with in-game by members of staff, because you do not agree with the outcome or otherwise.

It was handled in-game, you knew that and you just didn't agree and you said it wasn't handled in-game. I'd say that's really close to lying in the courthouse because you directly interacted with Welker regarding the situation and he made his decision clear?