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Your Name: ZooM

Issued by: Please include the [L²]/[L²:M] tag.[L²] Night

Blacklist ID: 77058 and 77059

Server: v2b

Why should you be unblacklisted?:

I uploaded an entire video showing everything related this this. Check evidence.

So I was chasing a man that was speeding across the city. I eventually crashed into an officer who was driving on the wrong side of the road. I made sure to get this officer the medical treatment needed to wake up. After this, the man who was speeding around the city showed up in a new pink car (he had a tesla before). It turned out that this man was an officer, and he was probably just in a pursuit. However, the officer that was injured and then revived took out a firearm out of nowhere and started to aim at the other officer. When I was no longer in the firearm's line of sight, I drew my firearm to take control over the situation. Wesley insisted along with Night that this was FearRP. But you can clearly see in the video that the weapon was no longer aimed at me when I drew my firearm.
Anyhow, the officer lowered his firearm and went back to his police car. I called in backup and decided to get away from there along with the officer who had just been under gunpoint. Shortly, the other officer (Zxus) pulls out his firearm again and teamkills the officer who he had just had under gunpoint moments before.

Now I called for an admin sit, but me and Wesley had had a fight a few minutes before, so he responded instantly to see what he could do to fuck me over. Proof of this: 

Wesley keept talking about my "FearRP" breakage instead of what I was actually reporting. He said he was going to go on to Zxus teamkilling after he was done with the FearRP situation. I sent him a video as proof that I didn't break FearRP. I had to go shortly after this because it was late at night.

When I wake up, I see that I have recieved a blacklist for FearRP. I could however not find any punishment for Zxus teamkilling, which I found rather funny. 

This situation was so ridiculous that I had to make this Blacklist Appeal. If it weren't for all this bias, I'd just accept the blacklist. I want everyone to see this now.

Evidence: 

The staff-members have received your unblacklist-request, ZooM.

It will take a while for it to be reviewed.

Hello,

As for the attempt at incriminating content about how biased I am towards you, I'd like to redirect you over to the appropriate sub-forum for it at https://limelightgaming.net/forums/forum-212.html. I'd also like to remind you to post the full length video instead of just you saying it once over radio and then making it seem like I dealt with you solely on that.

As for the ''direct threat'' that is in regards to your conduct plus the fact you're on probation. Someone who just got unbanned in that manner should know better than to hop on solely to pick fights and make clever remarks constantly. You aren't different than anyone else that should be following the rules in our community and I don't know why you seem to think that you're exempt from it in any way as long as you make clever remarks when someone tells you off.

As for the FearRP violation, I'll leave that up to as I specifically called him in to supervise the @-call after you raised concerns about any bias towards you. I believe he then reviewed the footage along with your, slightly conveniently edited, footage and sent it over to a staff member higher-up who then concluded you were the one breaking FearRP during that situation.

Are you actually having a laugh? There is no bias in there whatsoever. What Wesley said to you was not a threat, it was common sense. You keep being toxic and breaking rules and shit, you're going to get banned. So, playing the 'ooooooo this admin is being bias because he blacklisted me' isn't the way to get yourself unblacklist.

As for the second video, can you please upload the full length one as it looks like its got a bit missing around 11 seconds.

I find the claim of bias to be a little over the top considering I was brought into the situation specifically to prevent Wesley from making a bias decision, but alright.

As Wesley mentioned, please direct any report about misconduct or similar to the Staff Reports forum.

Due to issues with my tools at the time which was outlined to ‍ upon reviewing the evidence I had from your video (the shorter one which was first sent, I believe) I had asked Wesley to check up on some concerns that both of us shared with the footage. This was said in a non-objective way, and it was concluded that you were still under gunpoint when you pulled out your weapon, thus making you in breach of FearRP. As for the teamkilling, that wasn't the scope of my investigation and I believed that Wesley would have handled that, apologies if I was wrong on that account.

I also discussed the terms of your probation with Overlewd as well, and both of us (even Wesley too, might I add) agreed with the decision that Overlewd and I made to not enforce your probation, despite the violation and priors due to the timing of everything, though this was taken into account when I decided the length of the blacklist which I found more than fair and perfectly suitable.

You can claim bias if you'd like, however, I took steps to ensure that I made the right decision by approaching Overlewd with the case and discussing it with him in length thus I don't believe neither mine or Wesley's opinion of you impacted the outcome of the situation but I apologise you feel that way.

Also, if you don't have anything else to add regarding your blacklist then I'll be concluding this.

Do you have anything further to add about your blacklist?

(Nov 28, 2018, 11:19 PM)Night Wrote: [ -> ]Do you have anything further to add about your blacklist?

Yes. If you watch the video I used as evidence. You can see that when I draw my weapon, the officer has his weapon on the other officer and not me. Thus no FearRP was present. I even paused the video for you to see that, not sure why you ignore it.

I've been asked to give my input on this case, so let's go.

In the first video, it fails to provide any context to what happened, as to what happened before. Considering your video starts with you replying to something said prior, you're attempting to call out a "fight", with nothing backing you up there.

Continuing, you continually bring OOC issues into an IC radio, showing a complete lack of respect for Wesley, the instructions that he as a staff member was giving you, and a lack of respect for other people in the radio who just wanted to RP. Quite frankly, with the attitude you displayed, and the fact you were literally taken off a permanent suspension last week, I am surprised you weren't banned right there and then.

In the second video, you literally say "are you pointing weapons at me", with him pointing a weapon at you, whilst you pull your own weapon.

Whilst I wouldn't like to accuse you of lying in the courthouse, I would like to remind you of courthouse rule number 6. When you've repeatedly claimed that you weren't in FearRP, when your own evidence shows that you were? Then quite frankly, if you're unable to hold your hands up to your own responsibility, claiming bias where you clearly broke the rules? I think that your permanent suspension should be reapplied.

Furthermore, there is a clear jump-cut in your second video. Whilst I'm sure that it contains nothing of interest to this case, in the interests of removing any possible bias and clearing up any possible breaches, I would like to request the full, unedited video from you ZooM, as Brynn did prior, yet you seemed to have ignored.


In conclusion,
Currently, the only breaches to the rules I can see are made by you.
I am requesting a full, unedited video showing the entire context of the situation with Wesley prior.
I am requesting a full, unedited video, due to the shortcomings in your second piece of evidence.
If this was my own blacklist appeal to close, at the current time, not only would it be denied, but the terrible attitude you've shown, failing to note anything from your permanent suspension appeal would lead me to suggest re-instating that permanent suspension.

All the best,
Doctor Internet,
Server Administrator, Developer, Business Adviser, Data Protection Officer, Development Management

(Nov 29, 2018, 05:25 PM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ]I've been asked to give my input on this case, so let's go.

In the first video, it fails to provide any context to what happened, as to what happened before. Considering your video starts with you replying to something said prior, you're attempting to call out a "fight", with nothing backing you up there.

Continuing, you continually bring OOC issues into an IC radio, showing a complete lack of respect for Wesley, the instructions that he as a staff member was giving you, and a lack of respect for other people in the radio who just wanted to RP. Quite frankly, with the attitude you displayed, and the fact you were literally taken off a permanent suspension last week, I am surprised you weren't banned right there and then.

In the second video, you literally say "are you pointing weapons at me", with him pointing a weapon at you, whilst you pull your own weapon.

Whilst I wouldn't like to accuse you of lying in the courthouse, I would like to remind you of courthouse rule number 6. When you've repeatedly claimed that you weren't in FearRP, when your own evidence shows that you were? Then quite frankly, if you're unable to hold your hands up to your own responsibility, claiming bias where you clearly broke the rules? I think that your permanent suspension should be reapplied.

Furthermore, there is a clear jump-cut in your second video. Whilst I'm sure that it contains nothing of interest to this case, in the interests of removing any possible bias and clearing up any possible breaches, I would like to request the full, unedited video from you ZooM, as Brynn did prior, yet you seemed to have ignored.


In conclusion,
Currently, the only breaches to the rules I can see are made by you.
I am requesting a full, unedited video showing the entire context of the situation with Wesley prior.
I am requesting a full, unedited video, due to the shortcomings in your second piece of evidence.
If this was my own blacklist appeal to close, at the current time, not only would it be denied, but the terrible attitude you've shown, failing to note anything from your permanent suspension appeal would lead me to suggest re-instating that permanent suspension.

All the best,
Doctor Internet,
Server Administrator, Developer, Business Adviser, Data Protection Officer, Development Management

Thanks for ur input.

I don't have the full video anymore.

The reason why I cut the video was because nothing really happened. I was just speaking to my friend. Also, you can hear me breathing weird which I would find uncomfortable showing to everyone on the forum.

The Wesley situation started with me having an OOC discussion with a few other government officials. Not sure who started it. But I sure wasn't allowed to end it.

(Nov 29, 2018, 01:36 PM)ZooM Wrote: [ -> ]

(Nov 28, 2018, 11:19 PM)Night Wrote: [ -> ]Do you have anything further to add about your blacklist?

Yes. If you watch the video I used as evidence. You can see that when I draw my weapon, the officer has his weapon on the other officer and not me. Thus no FearRP was present. I even paused the video for you to see that, not sure why you ignore it.

You are considered to be under FearRP when you are in line of sight of a visibly armed person, who is within microphone range of you and is able to harm your character at that moment.

You were quite clearly within his line of sight even if the weapon was not explicitly pointed at you, therefore you were under FearRP.

With that being said, and other staff members giving input, I'll be denying this as you have had other opinions now which have strengthened the punishment. It will stand as issued.

Denied.