Reported Players: Big Sp00py Ishnifan #TeamEvo (STEAM_0:1:148471178) (
) , |Dark|Crusader| (STEAM_0:1:80680522) , [L²:RP] Dewis Leall (STEAM_0:0:78191187) ()
Server: Rockford
Time: 2018-Oct-19 23:05
Summary: There was no reason to raid me from the beginning, they went up the elevator to the presidential floor, shot down my SS () and took me, hostage. I was not a dictator, I was not corrupt and there was nothing wrong with the laws that would make me a dictator and especially any law that would affect citizens. Then, they proceeded to take me to the elevator and then escort me to the courtroom for execution. When we went to the courtroom, they executed me.
There was no reason to execute me, I was not a dictator and I was not corrupt. My laws did not affect them in any way either and the laws did not indicate any corruption nor dictatorship. Some of the people in the video and screenshots have already been reported by me, so that's why I did not include them in this player report.
Evidence:
Screenshot of the laws: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...1543039128
Screenshot of the presidential floor and me being tied up: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...1543039055
Screenshot when they took me to the elevator: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...1543038931
Screenshot when they escorted me to the courtroom: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...1543038711
Video of the execution: https://youtu.be/6CIhhf0sy5g
Non of the evidence is viewable?
(Oct 21, 2018, 06:54 PM)Dewis Leall Wrote: [ -> ]Non of the evidence is viewable?
Fixed.
Awaiting response from the reported players!
Dictatorship implies absolute power — one person who takes control — of a political situation, a family, a classroom or even a camping expedition. In government, a dictatorship leaves no room for input from anyone who is not the top guy or gal.
Thats the definition of dicatorship. You were a president yet you refused to implement laws. You refused to listen to any suggestions by the PD were rude and commanded them constantly. When they tried to input suggestions you ignored them and when we tried to contact you for a discussion you refused and made up stupid arguments as not to listen. You then demoted half the force after demanding that it was illegal for us to protest and go on strike, you then used this to demote us. You demoted me, a peaceful member of government, for being involved and putting in peaceful laws that effected both sides. After this we moved in as a group of over half the server at first to execute you on the grounds that you took the position and used it for absoloute power and did nothing to listen to your workers or governemnt.
Re-opened.
So, I'd like the rest of the players to comment regarding the player report.
Reported Players: Big Sp00py Ishnifan #TeamEvo (STEAM_0:1:148471178) (@hubert400011) , |Dark|Crusader| (STEAM_0:1:80680522) , [L²:RP] Dewis Leall (STEAM_0:0:78191187) (@Dewis Leall)
(Oct 21, 2018, 07:59 PM)Dewis Leall Wrote: [ -> ]Dictatorship implies absolute power — one person who takes control — of a political situation, a family, a classroom or even a camping expedition. In government, a dictatorship leaves no room for input from anyone who is not the top guy or gal.
Thats the definition of dicatorship. You were a president yet you refused to implement laws. You refused to listen to any suggestions by the PD were rude and commanded them constantly. When they tried to input suggestions you ignored them and when we tried to contact you for a discussion you refused and made up stupid arguments as not to listen. You then demoted half the force after demanding that it was illegal for us to protest and go on strike, you then used this to demote us. You demoted me, a peaceful member of government, for being involved and putting in peaceful laws that effected both sides. After this we moved in as a group of over half the server at first to execute you on the grounds that you took the position and used it for absoloute power and did nothing to listen to your workers or governemnt.
You don't need to lie, let's get that clear. I did not refuse to listen from suggestions/requests from PD, I actually took them into consideration and made it a reality. Evidence of me removing the law that the PD was requesting as well as complying with
: https://youtu.be/OXllZWZIXQw
I did not demote half of the force, I demoted 2 people, one for tazing me and the other one for pointing a gun at me. Can clarify this, as the same issue came up in the PR against me here (which was denied due to me not being a dictator): https://limelightgaming.net/forums/threa...#pid256009
"[font=Roboto, sans-serif]There's only two instances of a demotion as far as I can see.
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1 - A police officer pointing a gun at him
2- A police officer/chief tazing him.
[font=Roboto, sans-serif]Nothing tying into the Protest directly, which is what I believe Wesley told off on. " - [/font]
I did not demote anyone for protesting, but for other reasons:
The other officer was demoted for pointing a gun at me, this is not the entire police force and none was demoted for protesting; but for entirely other reasons which were legitimate and appropriate.
I've proved that I'm not a Dictator, both here and in the player report against me which was denied for the reason of me not being a dictator. It's very disturbing to see that you're lying in front of me and the staff when you know that I have proof of me not being a dictator.
if you have any questions regarding this, feel free to ask me here or via PM. I have shown evidence that I was indeed not a dictator and that the protest was indeed not peaceful. Nonetheless, there was no reason to raid me and execute me; the 3 reported players have violated the server rules.
I believe they protested about you having a new law made up (when I wasn't there anymore) about punishments being handed out for anyone who would go on strike in their uniform whilst being on-duty. Not about the law I told you to remove, so I'm going to request to stop being tagged about that. That has been solved.
Why they executed you, however, is unclear to me at the moment, so I am going to pull back from this and let the accused reply to it.
(Oct 23, 2018, 04:44 PM)Wesley Lawrence Wrote: [ -> ]I believe they protested about you having a new law made up (when I wasn't there anymore) about punishments being handed out for anyone who would go on strike in their uniform whilst being on-duty. Not about the law I told you to remove, so I'm going to request to stop being tagged about that. That has been solved.
Why they executed you, however, is unclear to me at the moment, so I am going to pull back from this and let the accused reply to it.
The reason they executed me was that they thought I was a Dictator, when I was not.
The law I added (law 3) when you weren't there is this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...1543039128
Nonetheless, I was not a Dictator at that time, I have proven it and a denied PR have also proven it. This means that the 3 players violated the rules by raiding and then executing me.
The protest was in reguard to the law (which was removed) and the fact he quite clearly ignored requests for imput from officers throughout the night. I stand by my previous statement.
The protest started because of the law about non-lethal weaponry, but the law was removed yet you guys still continued to protest? The PD did not want to negotiate and I did take requests from the PD into consideration by removing the law about non-lethal weaponry, but yet they still continued to protest. Why did they still continue to protest? The law here was made after 20-45 minutes of continued protests if I remember correctly:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...1543039128
Nonetheless, the raid and execution would be legitimate if I was a dictator; but I wasn't. The raiding and execution is the problem here and that's the reason for this player report. Don't try to avoid this by trying to find loopholes.
There was no reason to execute me, I was not corrupt nor a dictator which I have already proven with video evidence, screenshots, witnesses, staff confirmation and a denied player report that accused me of being a dictator which is related to this.
The protest wasnt just about the law!
Your proven how you seem to not listen to people which is one of the reasons the protest started.
I believe since It was closed after my remark I am no longer required to defend myself? Am I cleared considering my job was set correctly and I had reason to do it?
I was already player reported for being a dictator which is connected to this execution and the player report was denied due to me not being a dictator. This and all my evidence is enough to prove that I was not a dictator and therefore the execution and raid were invalid. The only thing that is correct from your part is the definition of dictatorship, which does not fit in with me.
Right so its been awhile.
Joley and myself have discussed this PR in great length and we've come to the conclusion that we think the law you made is leaning towards a dictator law, however it is a grey area. So in this case, it'd be unfair to punish.
Many thanks, Brynn and Joley..