(Oct 20, 2018, 01:55 PM)Bambo Wrote: [ -> ]Agreeing and so on is all nice, however is there any further evidence to show context into the situation?
For example, for the demotion of Luvbunny, it's stated that you tazed the president, which you did.
Anyone else that was demoted that provided a reason that was not aligning with what Wesley stated?
You might like to have a look at the laws log. He reintroduced laws that he was told not to, even under the cover of "only being restricting", which in other words is forbidding it anyways; Protersters will not follow the orders of who they are protesting against, will they?
Also might like to have a look at the broadcasting logs as he put up pressure by setting deadlines and everyone to do as he said or "there would be consequences".
I've checked the laws and also the broadcasts.
The deadline pressure was there for an unarmed protest.
Quote:v2b [00:37:20] Kurdayeti (STEAM_0:1:82662812) used command "broadcast A peaceful protest cannot be done with weapons, put down your weapons if you want it to be legitimate!"
Quote:v2b [00:38:13] Kurdayeti (STEAM_0:1:82662812) used command "broadcast I have hired 2 SSA Agents for my safety as well, put down your weapons or your protest will be counted as illegitimate."
Quote:v2b [00:46:12] Kurdayeti (STEAM_0:1:82662812) used command "addlaw All government workers shall never protest while on duty. Doing so is an illegal act and will be seen as an betrayal to the country. It shall be punished by a demotion and an arrest."
Quote:v2b [00:46:12] Kurdayeti (STEAM_0:1:82662812) used command "addlaw All government workers shall never protest while on duty. Doing so is an illegal act and will be seen as an betrayal to the country. It shall be punished by a demotion and an arrest."
Quote:v2b [00:46:12] Kurdayeti (STEAM_0:1:82662812) used command "addlaw All government workers shall never protest while on duty. Doing so is an illegal act and will be seen as an betrayal to the country. It shall be punished by a demotion and an arrest."
There's only two instances of a demotion as far as I can see.
1 - A police officer pointing a gun at him
2- A police officer/chief tazing him.
Nothing tying into the Protest directly, which is what I believe Wesley told off on.
For example, if Kurdayeti demoted someone due to them Protesting, sure, but these had different reasons.
He was constantly lying over the fact that someone did point anything at anyone.
You may consult the witnesses about that.
-- Involved before the Crash --
When the President first came to negotiate, I swapped from my Detective Kit to my Weapon and instantly to my fists (All of these are on the number 2 slot)
I don't use scrollwheel to change weapons, I have that disabled. So this was my only way, the weapon was lowered and was taken out of my hands within 1 second. However the President then claimed I put him under gunpoint. So what Luvbunny said is also true.
He also many times before stated that we were shooting and doing other activities that were illegal when we did no such thing.
He didnt get the chance to demote more as people either left or raided him at the point of making that law.
Claiming its more realistic for the PD to strike without uniform is utter malarkey in my opinion. It was the DEPARTMENT as a WHOLE.
Pretty simply this is Kurdayeti
1. Lying in Admin sit.
2. Ignoring Moderators orders as soon as said moderator is offline.
3. Going to the border (and in my opinion over) the dictator line.
4. Ignoring PEACEFUL protests for hours, spewing a bunch of propoganda in broadcast that makes people even more angry, and once he has SSA strong arm people to the point they decide to KILL him, and dance on his corpse (This was after I left). Thats how far he went into making people unhappy within the city. Thats how far he went to ignore protests and NOT work with government. Demanding we take off uniform would diminish the protests and make them useless. We were on strike against how he ran the country. Ignoring that and hiding away till you have gathered a force to squash it, is not democratic, it is dictatorial.
He tried making up the tiniest excuses, even claiming we had plans to arest or execute him publicly. Look up those in the logs as well please if we are going to be pointing out things that were said. Arguing this was a democratic president, is in my opinion, an argument that can not be made.
(Oct 20, 2018, 01:55 PM)Bambo Wrote: [ -> ]Agreeing and so on is all nice, however is there any further evidence to show context into the situation?
For example, for the demotion of Luvbunny, it's stated that you tazed the president, which you did.
Anyone else that was demoted that provided a reason that was not aligning with what Wesley stated?
You guys are making those vast accusations without any evidence to back up your claims. I back up my claims, actions, and arguments with concrete evidence. Just like I said, the protestors did not have any ground nor reason to protest further as their requests were taken into consideration and the law that they complained about was REMOVED.
https://youtu.be/OXllZWZIXQw
Your apparent proof are nip picked pieces, either cut videos or some Screenshots. All aggression took place after the protest ended, all of the proof you provided were things going on that happened after the protest. You've never proven anything in that regard.
My final statement is as following:
When the literal entire server is against you you might think there is a reason for it. I don't see presidents being executed on a daily basis by every leo and citizen. It was probably you that provoked it by ignoring our protest, being ignorant and agressive towards us. In fact, you've been so here aswell: Lying, twisting facts, telling me to read the rules or anything better apparently, insisting on HR to conclude this, spamming PRs yourself to seek personal revenge over everything you can find.
The others have provided proof, lots of witnesses, even one of them being a member of this team.
As for me I think I've said enough and no further statements are required.
I was involved and was among the ones demoted. Id like to say you follow every part of the definition of a dictator.
Dictatorship implies absolute power — one person who takes control — of a political situation, a family, a classroom or even a camping expedition. In government, a dictatorship leaves no room for input from anyone who is not the top guy or gal. The noun comes from the late 14th century Latin word, dictare, which means to "repeat or say often." In a dictatorship, one person keeps repeating the same command: "My way or the highway."
You refused to listen to myself or any officers, made up excuses for coming to talk to us and demoted people for not agreeing or for being on strike. You didnt even talk to people before making demotions you just did it. You were rude and impolite to police which is what made us strike and you commanded your government and didnt treat us like humans. You began using the government as a machine that furthers your power not as people who help protect your citizens whome you were also ignoring.