(Oct 2, 2018, 09:12 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote: [ -> ]Where did I say ONLY humans have homosexual 'thoughts'? I pretty clearly agreed that there are cases where animals have engaged in homosexual activity.
I didn't compare transgender people to murderers or thieves. Read again.
Don't try to spin my words and pull claims out of thin air.
I have to admit, you are really good at dodging questions. Almost in every response you try to avoid giving your opinion, quoting something religious and without facts calling stuff "wrong" and "immoral". Honestly, stop picking ONLY one small mistake or something wrong out multiple well structured arguments and provide a full reply to everything brought up with some facts supporting it. It is honestly annoying watching you throwing quotes as if they are laws.
(Oct 2, 2018, 09:18 PM)Project Wrote: [ -> ] (Oct 2, 2018, 09:12 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote: [ -> ]Where did I say ONLY humans have homosexual 'thoughts'? I pretty clearly agreed that there are cases where animals have engaged in homosexual activity.
I didn't compare transgender people to murderers or thieves. Read again.
Don't try to spin my words and pull claims out of thin air.
I have to admit, you are really good at dodging questions. Almost in every response you try to avoid giving your opinion, quoting something religious and without facts calling stuff "wrong" and "immoral". Honestly, stop picking ONLY one small mistake or something wrong out multiple well structured arguments and provide a full reply to everything brought up with some facts supporting it. It is honestly annoying watching you throwing quotes as if they are laws.
Ok, here is my entire post without the ONE biblical quote and the ONE mention of the Gospel.
Quote:Using the fact that some animals have homosexual relations as an attempt to justify such relations in humans is not appropriate. Animals also practice incest, rape, murder, theft, physical abuse, and even cannibalism. Does this make all these things 'natural' and therefore acceptable for us as humans?
reductio ad absurdum
There is no basis for applying animal behaviour to humans, we do not consider rape, murder, incest, theft, physical abuse, and cannibalism to be acceptable. Ironically, this in itself is further confirmation that we are really made in the image and likeness of God, not animals.
Although animals may be able to express some emotions, use simple tools, solve problems, speak a few words, and even mourn for their dead, they do not match the intellectual, technological and spiritual capacity of humans.
You don't see animals placing humans in zoos.
You don't see animals training humans to perform physical labour.
You don't see animals constructing civilisations.
You don't see animals obeying moral laws.
You don't see animals building churches
Happy now?
Also, the reason I don't write up everything in one post is that 99.99% of it gets ignored and the rest gets spinned, so I prefer to do it in chunks.
And Jokhah used a biblical quote, so why aren't you hating on him?
Additionally, it appears that it is alright to bash Christianity, but Islam is a no-go zone.
I was writing a response but then my browser cucked me over. Here's the rundown:
There is an obvious anti-religion sentiment in this thread. Religion is literally the basis of our morals and even our laws. It's almost as if the world has been dominated by religious beliefs for the past 5000+ years. In the world today, you can be demeaning against any religious person (Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc) or non-religious person (agnostic, atheist, cult follower, etc) without consequence, but God forbid you go against a Muslim. Now that makes you a bigot.
And yes, there is a scientific aspect to this. Humans have two genders/sexes/whatever the fuck you wanna say, that are based off X and Y chromosomes. Men are XY, women are XX, with some room for syndromes that are extremely rare. You can't change your gender/sex/whatever by chopping off or creating a new appendage and forcing others to call you something. It doesn't work that way. Now, you have the ability to do those things, but it doesn't qualify you to be someone of the opposite gender.
And yes again, animals do show signs of homosexuality and transgenderism. The difference between animals and humans is they are doing it devoid of conscious thought. They aren't thinking about what they are doing, they are just doing it for survival. Animals that do change genders usually do so to avoid predators or intra-species dangers. They aren't just changing their shit up one day and telling others to respect them.