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(Aug 20, 2018, 10:47 AM)Mr Hallowed Wrote: [ -> ]LilSnek you ask what is wrong with racism, and I am going to give you answer. Racism, by my definition, is disliking someone because of their biological ethnic heritage. Racism is both idiotic and immoral.You are not listening to what I posted later in the post, morals are just the pimped up opinions of the ruling people. Racism cannot be immoral for everyone as the people who create wrongs and rights are also the ruling people; that is also the reason why racism was seen as acceptable not too long ago. Also calling something idiotic is simply your opinion meaning there is nothing holding that up.
Quote:Disliking others due to unchangeable biological characteristics is nonsensical, defies reason, and is void of any moral value.There again you use "moral" which is not naturistic in it's sense and is therefore simply made up. What is nonsensical is thinking that being racist defies reason. Also I never once said I was racist, I simply implied that it's not wrong to be. You also for some reason imply that I suddenly hate every other culture and ethnicity in this post yet I never said that. Also, maybe if they were more independent I would dislike them less but we can get into that later on in the post.
Quote:People have the right to be treated equally not be discriminated against due to there biological ethnic heritage.Again, why? What is your reasoning behind this? "Because it's morally right"? Wrongs and rights are made up opinions, they're choices. People chose them and just because you chose that one doesn't mean we all have to abide by it. Rights are also made up, a right is just something that is given because the ruling powers say so, not because it's correct or incorrect. Who even states what's correct or incorrect?
Quote:And you go on about "how is it racist if I want to see only white faces in my white country" well guess what this isn't your country nor is it a white country.Well you see, it is my country as I am English and this country is, you guessed it: England. And it is a white country as it always has been. White settlers were the ones who made England what it is today, the ones who aided in creating civilisation more than any other race on this planet. You are probably believing some false information on England's history. The true history can be found quite easily and here's an example of the ruling powers pushing an agenda that isn't true at all:
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Quote:Granted, there are more white people than black people (or other ethnic) however; what's to say they weren't grown up here? What is to say that they weren't in the same type of education you were in? What is to say they aren't doing the same job as you LilSnek.Maybe they did grow up here, were in the same education and did the same job as me; wouldn't make them the same as me.
Quote:You also went on about why people should not give a "flying fuck about some starving kids in Africa", well the truth here is you don't have to give a "flying fuck" about kids in Africa that are dying due to a lack of food and clean water. But I can truly say if you went to Africa and spent a week in the same shows as the "starving kids" you would understand why they need help.The amount of chances we have given these people, the amount of "aid" and help we have given them and what do they give back? Nothing. They still fail, become to dependent and fail. How did England grow into what it is today? Did it ask for aid? Did it sit there and die? No. The country fought and worked tirelessly to grow into what it is today. I don't see developing countries in Africa working their arses off. They're lazy (if you want proof message me and I can provide it). And if I went to Africa I would not change my mind, I would know that, with them sitting on a goldmine of aquifers and some of the most precious resources in the world, they have failed themselves, even with their lower average IQ.
Quote:It is not okay to be so stuck upSays who? If I want to be stuck up I can be as stuck up as can be? I don't believe I am but in your opinion I am. What am I supposed to take from that? Why should I have to keep bringing up that wrongs and rights are opinions/made up when not relating back into nature.
Quote:and moral values that you only care about your family, yes family in many cases do come first. But that is not to say you need to be living the high life before you start caring about the people in other countries that are less fortunate than ourselves. The basics for human survival is food, water, warmth and shelter. And as long as you have got those things you should at least be thankful for what you have.What you are saying is that it's wrong for me to want to succeed in life better than others. See I'm not saying don't care at all but you saying that competition is wrong is incorrect, as I said before, it is in nature to be competitive, it's in our blood to want to do better. That is correct, the reason being it relates back to nature and as we both know nature is: "relating to the natural order of things". You also said "start caring about the people in other countries", my reply is I don't and won't. There is no reason for me to so why should I give a shit?
Quote:You later go into saying how "Races are not equal in nature, same way animals are never equal". Well firstly yes races are not equal in nature and yes animals are not equal either.You have understood something I said, well done! 🤧
Quote:But you do not see a German Shepard and a Cocker Spaniel hating each other at first sight. My point here is that you should not judge someone by there race, disability, religion, or where ever or not someone is in a different social class to you.You go a bit off track here and stop thinking as much. The reason most dogs won't hate each other instantly these days is because they're all domesticated. They have been bred over hundreds even thousands, sometimes, of years to be like this. Back before all of this, it is common knowledge that they were "vicious" animals that would kill anything they saw. This is true as it relates back to nature, yet I dislike having to say vicious as it's not; it's natural. You say you should not but why shouldn't I? You say a lot of statements but have nothing to back them up except made up things called morals.
Quote:No. It is okay to not like someone because of there personality, we have all been guilty of this. But at no point does it say that White people are better than Asians. Or does it say that Asians are better than Black people. And so on. You don't go to a party and say to yourself they are wearing a blue tie when everyone else is wearing a black tie, so therefor I am going to avoid that person. Because that is pretty much what racism is people fighting over what colour tie is better. When the truth is there is no colour that is, they are exactly the same.Firstly, I never said whites were better than Asians, I disagree with that totally. You contradict yourself by agreeing that races aren't equal then saying they are exactly the same. :/ You were right before when you say they aren't equal as they have large differences in many things such as genetics, DNA and IQ to name a few. Also the bullshit about the ties is the worst analogy I've ever heard and does not correlate to racism at all.
Quote:LilSnek you also said that "We may look alike, but we're a whole lot different on the inside" please tell me what is different. Granted everyone's brain chemistry is differentYou just answered your own query. Why keep contradicting yourself? And to answer the rest, the answer for the previous one answers it pretty nicely ^
Quote:some people have cancer, some people have autism but how does that make us not equal?Where did you bring all this from? I was taking about race and IQ and genetics not a disease and a mental condition.
Quote:How does having anyone of those things make us different and not human? Please provide more information on this and I would love to see it. Also don't forget the sources.At this point you have completely lost what you're talking about. I never said about them not being human just them not being the same as each other. As you said there is such thing as different "breeds" of dogs, which look different and are the same animal. Also I don't need to provide information for all of this; it's naturistic. It's even in your blood to know this, you are just too brainwashed to see it.
Quote:Later on you in your opinion you asked me a question "the opinion you have on me is negative right now, but imagine if you were brought up in a country where this was the norm? Would you still have your views, or mine?" The answer to that is are you not from the UK? What makes you different to me? I can answer that for you nothing. And yes I would still have my views, because as I said earlier it is morally wrong for me to be discriminated against.What makes me different to you, if you are indeed a white British male, is not much really, which is what I already stated earlier. And you most likely would not have your views as, as I have already stated, morals are made up (if not denoting nature) and pushed onto you by the ruling power. So if the ruling power was a fascist power, most likely, you would be a fascist.
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(Aug 27, 2018, 03:02 AM)LilSnek Wrote: [ -> ](Aug 20, 2018, 10:47 AM)Mr Hallowed Wrote: [ -> ]LilSnek you ask what is wrong with racism, and I am going to give you answer. Racism, by my definition, is disliking someone because of their biological ethnic heritage. Racism is both idiotic and immoral.You are not listening to what I posted later in the post, morals are just the pimped up opinions of the ruling people. Racism cannot be immoral for everyone as the people who create wrongs and rights are also the ruling people; that is also the reason why racism was seen as acceptable not too long ago. Also calling something idiotic is simply your opinion meaning there is nothing holding that up.
Quote:Disliking others due to unchangeable biological characteristics is nonsensical, defies reason, and is void of any moral value.There again you use "moral" which is not naturistic in it's sense and is therefore simply made up. What is nonsensical is thinking that being racist defies reason. Also I never once said I was racist, I simply implied that it's not wrong to be. You also for some reason imply that I suddenly hate every other culture and ethnicity in this post yet I never said that. Also, maybe if they were more independent I would dislike them less but we can get into that later on in the post.
Quote:People have the right to be treated equally not be discriminated against due to there biological ethnic heritage.Again, why? What is your reasoning behind this? "Because it's morally right"? Wrongs and rights are made up opinions, they're choices. People chose them and just because you chose that one doesn't mean we all have to abide by it. Rights are also made up, a right is just something that is given because the ruling powers say so, not because it's correct or incorrect. Who even states what's correct or incorrect?
Quote:And you go on about "how is it racist if I want to see only white faces in my white country" well guess what this isn't your country nor is it a white country.Well you see, it is my country as I am English and this country is, you guessed it: England. And it is a white country as it always has been. White settlers were the ones who made England what it is today, the ones who aided in creating civilisation more than any other race on this planet. You are probably believing some false information on England's history. The true history can be found quite easily and here's an example of the ruling powers pushing an agenda that isn't true at all:
Quote:Granted, there are more white people than black people (or other ethnic) however; what's to say they weren't grown up here? What is to say that they weren't in the same type of education you were in? What is to say they aren't doing the same job as you LilSnek.Maybe they did grow up here, were in the same education and did the same job as me; wouldn't make them the same as me.
Quote:You also went on about why people should not give a "flying fuck about some starving kids in Africa", well the truth here is you don't have to give a "flying fuck" about kids in Africa that are dying due to a lack of food and clean water. But I can truly say if you went to Africa and spent a week in the same shows as the "starving kids" you would understand why they need help.The amount of chances we have given these people, the amount of "aid" and help we have given them and what do they give back? Nothing. They still fail, become to dependent and fail. How did England grow into what it is today? Did it ask for aid? Did it sit there and die? No. The country fought and worked tirelessly to grow into what it is today. I don't see developing countries in Africa working their arses off. They're lazy (if you want proof message me and I can provide it). And if I went to Africa I would not change my mind, I would know that, with them sitting on a goldmine of aquifers and some of the most precious resources in the world, they have failed themselves, even with their lower average IQ.
Quote:It is not okay to be so stuck upSays who? If I want to be stuck up I can be as stuck up as can be? I don't believe I am but in your opinion I am. What am I supposed to take from that? Why should I have to keep bringing up that wrongs and rights are opinions/made up when not relating back into nature.
Quote:and moral values that you only care about your family, yes family in many cases do come first. But that is not to say you need to be living the high life before you start caring about the people in other countries that are less fortunate than ourselves. The basics for human survival is food, water, warmth and shelter. And as long as you have got those things you should at least be thankful for what you have.What you are saying is that it's wrong for me to want to succeed in life better than others. See I'm not saying don't care at all but you saying that competition is wrong is incorrect, as I said before, it is in nature to be competitive, it's in our blood to want to do better. That is correct, the reason being it relates back to nature and as we both know nature is: "relating to the natural order of things". You also said "start caring about the people in other countries", my reply is I don't and won't. There is no reason for me to so why should I give a shit?
Quote:You later go into saying how "Races are not equal in nature, same way animals are never equal". Well firstly yes races are not equal in nature and yes animals are not equal either.You have understood something I said, well done! 🤧
Quote:But you do not see a German Shepard and a Cocker Spaniel hating each other at first sight. My point here is that you should not judge someone by there race, disability, religion, or where ever or not someone is in a different social class to you.You go a bit off track here and stop thinking as much. The reason most dogs won't hate each other instantly these days is because they're all domesticated. They have been bred over hundreds even thousands, sometimes, of years to be like this. Back before all of this, it is common knowledge that they were "vicious" animals that would kill anything they saw. This is true as it relates back to nature, yet I dislike having to say vicious as it's not; it's natural. You say you should not but why shouldn't I? You say a lot of statements but have nothing to back them up except made up things called morals.
Quote:No. It is okay to not like someone because of there personality, we have all been guilty of this. But at no point does it say that White people are better than Asians. Or does it say that Asians are better than Black people. And so on. You don't go to a party and say to yourself they are wearing a blue tie when everyone else is wearing a black tie, so therefor I am going to avoid that person. Because that is pretty much what racism is people fighting over what colour tie is better. When the truth is there is no colour that is, they are exactly the same.Firstly, I never said whites were better than Asians, I disagree with that totally. You contradict yourself by agreeing that races aren't equal then saying they are exactly the same. :/ You were right before when you say they aren't equal as they have large differences in many things such as genetics, DNA and IQ to name a few. Also the bullshit about the ties is the worst analogy I've ever heard and does not correlate to racism at all.
Quote:LilSnek you also said that "We may look alike, but we're a whole lot different on the inside" please tell me what is different. Granted everyone's brain chemistry is differentYou just answered your own query. Why keep contradicting yourself? And to answer the rest, the answer for the previous one answers it pretty nicely ^
Quote:some people have cancer, some people have autism but how does that make us not equal?Where did you bring all this from? I was taking about race and IQ and genetics not a disease and a mental condition.
Quote:How does having anyone of those things make us different and not human? Please provide more information on this and I would love to see it. Also don't forget the sources.At this point you have completely lost what you're talking about. I never said about them not being human just them not being the same as each other. As you said there is such thing as different "breeds" of dogs, which look different and are the same animal. Also I don't need to provide information for all of this; it's naturistic. It's even in your blood to know this, you are just too brainwashed to see it.
Quote:Later on you in your opinion you asked me a question "the opinion you have on me is negative right now, but imagine if you were brought up in a country where this was the norm? Would you still have your views, or mine?" The answer to that is are you not from the UK? What makes you different to me? I can answer that for you nothing. And yes I would still have my views, because as I said earlier it is morally wrong for me to be discriminated against.What makes me different to you, if you are indeed a white British male, is not much really, which is what I already stated earlier. And you most likely would not have your views as, as I have already stated, morals are made up (if not denoting nature) and pushed onto you by the ruling power. So if the ruling power was a fascist power, most likely, you would be a fascist.
Quote:Quote:People have the right to be treated equally not be discriminated against due to there biological ethnic heritage.Again, why? What is your reasoning behind this? "Because it's morally right"? Wrongs and rights are made up opinions, they're choices. People chose them and just because you chose that one doesn't mean we all have to abide by it. Rights are also made up, a right is just something that is given because the ruling powers say so, not because it's correct or incorrect. Who even states what's correct or incorrect?
Quote:People have the right to be treated equally not be discriminated against due to there biological ethnic heritage.
Quote:Quote:And you go on about "how is it racist if I want to see only white faces in my white country" well guess what this isn't your country nor is it a white country.Well you see, it is my country as I am English and this country is, you guessed it: England. And it is a white country as it always has been. White settlers were the ones who made England what it is today, the ones who aided in creating civilisation more than any other race on this planet. You are probably believing some false information on England's history. The true history can be found quite easily and here's an example of the ruling powers pushing an agenda that isn't true at all:
Quote:Quote:Granted, there are more white people than black people (or other ethnic) however; what's to say they weren't grown up here? What is to say that they weren't in the same type of education you were in? What is to say they aren't doing the same job as you LilSnek.Maybe they did grow up here, were in the same education and did the same job as me; wouldn't make them the same as me.
Quote:Quote:You also went on about why people should not give a "flying fuck about some starving kids in Africa", well the truth here is you don't have to give a "flying fuck" about kids in Africa that are dying due to a lack of food and clean water. But I can truly say if you went to Africa and spent a week in the same shows as the "starving kids" you would understand why they need help.The amount of chances we have given these people, the amount of "aid" and help we have given them and what do they give back? Nothing. They still fail, become to dependent and fail. How did England grow into what it is today? Did it ask for aid? Did it sit there and die? No. The country fought and worked tirelessly to grow into what it is today. I don't see developing countries in Africa working their arses off. They're lazy (if you want proof message me and I can provide it). And if I went to Africa I would not change my mind, I would know that, with them sitting on a goldmine of aquifers and some of the most precious resources in the world, they have failed themselves, even with their lower average IQ.
Quote:Quote:It is not okay to be so stuck upSays who? If I want to be stuck up I can be as stuck up as can be? I don't believe I am but in your opinion I am. What am I supposed to take from that? Why should I have to keep bringing up that wrongs and rights are opinions/made up when not relating back into nature.
Quote:Quote:and moral values that you only care about your family, yes family in many cases do come first. But that is not to say you need to be living the high life before you start caring about the people in other countries that are less fortunate than ourselves. The basics for human survival is food, water, warmth and shelter. And as long as you have got those things you should at least be thankful for what you have.What you are saying is that it's wrong for me to want to succeed in life better than others. See I'm not saying don't care at all but you saying that competition is wrong is incorrect, as I said before, it is in nature to be competitive, it's in our blood to want to do better. That is correct, the reason being it relates back to nature and as we both know nature is: "relating to the natural order of things". You also said "start caring about the people in other countries", my reply is I don't and won't. There is no reason for me to so why should I give a shit?
Quote:Quote:But you do not see a German Shepard and a Cocker Spaniel hating each other at first sight. My point here is that you should not judge someone by there race, disability, religion, or where ever or not someone is in a different social class to you.You go a bit off track here and stop thinking as much. The reason most dogs won't hate each other instantly these days is because they're all domesticated. They have been bred over hundreds even thousands, sometimes, of years to be like this. Back before all of this, it is common knowledge that they were "vicious" animals that would kill anything they saw. This is true as it relates back to nature, yet I dislike having to say vicious as it's not; it's natural. You say you should not but why shouldn't I? You say a lot of statements but have nothing to back them up except made up things called morals.
Quote:Quote:No. It is okay to not like someone because of there personality, we have all been guilty of this. But at no point does it say that White people are better than Asians. Or does it say that Asians are better than Black people. And so on. You don't go to a party and say to yourself they are wearing a blue tie when everyone else is wearing a black tie, so therefor I am going to avoid that person. Because that is pretty much what racism is people fighting over what colour tie is better. When the truth is there is no colour that is, they are exactly the same.Firstly, I never said whites were better than Asians, I disagree with that totally. You contradict yourself by agreeing that races aren't equal then saying they are exactly the same. :/ You were right before when you say they aren't equal as they have large differences in many things such as genetics, DNA and IQ to name a few. Also the bullshit about the ties is the worst analogy I've ever heard and does not correlate to racism at all.
Quote:Quote:LilSnek you also said that "We may look alike, but we're a whole lot different on the inside" please tell me what is different. Granted everyone's brain chemistry is differentYou just answered your own query. Why keep contradicting yourself? And to answer the rest, the answer for the previous one answers it pretty nicely ^
Quote:Quote:some people have cancer, some people have autism but how does that make us not equal?Where did you bring all this from? I was taking about race and IQ and genetics not a disease and a mental condition.
Quote:Quote:How does having anyone of those things make us different and not human? Please provide more information on this and I would love to see it. Also don't forget the sources.At this point you have completely lost what you're talking about. I never said about them not being human just them not being the same as each other. As you said there is such thing as different "breeds" of dogs, which look different and are the same animal. Also I don't need to provide information for all of this; it's naturistic. It's even in your blood to know this, you are just too brainwashed to see it.
Quote:Quote:Later on you in your opinion you asked me a question "the opinion you have on me is negative right now, but imagine if you were brought up in a country where this was the norm? Would you still have your views, or mine?" The answer to that is are you not from the UK? What makes you different to me? I can answer that for you nothing. And yes I would still have my views, because as I said earlier it is morally wrong for me to be discriminated against.What makes me different to you, if you are indeed a white British male, is not much really, which is what I already stated earlier. And you most likely would not have your views as, as I have already stated, morals are made up (if not denoting nature) and pushed onto you by the ruling power. So if the ruling power was a fascist power, most likely, you would be a fascist.