Jul 29, 2018, 12:29 AM
Your Name: Murdoch Murdoch
Ban ID: 7463
Banned by: [L²] Doctor Internet ()
Server: Rockford
Ban Reason: Insulting players / Toxicity in OOC. You have 1000 hours, are former staff, and have 3 priors for OOC infractions. You should know better.
Why should you be unbanned?: First of all, the extent of what I said is hardly anything bad. I called Wesley a 'stinker' and said I 'cried tears of happiness when his boyfriend got demoted' which is probably perhaps the most extreme extent of my 'insults.' That's pretty tame; come on, you'd hear that in a schoolyard.
Furthermore, it's not like I was harassing the guy. At no point did Wesley say 'please leave me alone or I will post a player report' etc. This was a mutual exchange. One of his replies was 'I bet you cry a lot' and the stinker jokes were somewhat adopted by Wesley himself. He also mocked my previous forum bans. Why am I alone punished, especially this harshly, and not him also? Or why are we not both left to go about our business, because it is not the duty of the administrators to solve personal conflicts? This isn't couples' therapy.
Lastly, I'd like to point out this ban was not issued in the correct fashion of a formal report. The ban was issued at 4PM, well after I had left the server. This means the administrator was not online at the time and thus must have issued the ban through evidence supplied to him by means other than the forum. While this is not inherently wrong, it raises questions when it appears that an administrator who undoubtedly has it in for me (please don't turn this thread into trying to argue this point otherwise we all already know it's true) was chosen as the one to review it by Wesley, rather than it being left to random chance in the report section. Really makes you think.
So clearly there is some discrepancy of justice here. As far as I see it there are two outcomes that can fairly come from this:
1. My ban is deemed unnecessary and is revoked, being removed from record.
2. Wesley receives a fitting punishment for his parallel involvement in the 'toxicity'
Subnote for this option: A simple slap on the wrist doesn't cut it here. I have 1000 hours, but Wesley has 1700. I might be a previous administrator, but if you're going to take away the recognition I deserve for that service, why should I act like it?
I know, Dr. Internet, that you will most likely want to deal with this case yourself. You could always instantly close it like you love to but another curious staff member, perhaps even bright eyed and bushy tailed like I once was when I did this, may look into the logs to find the truth to this situation, as I have already laid out. You wouldn't want that jeopardy on your position, you've seen what happened last time there.
You can make the choice, or there's always the possibility of passing it over to another non-affiliated staff member who may treat it more fairly.
Evidence: Check it yourself. Everything I've said is, to the best of my recollection, true, but it's all available in the server logs in text format. I didn't collect evidence at the time because, obviously, I didn't expect to be banned for SEVEN DAYS for something as ludicrous as this.
I will not be (by proxy) replying to this thread, not because I lack the required effort, but simply because I don't want to bother my friends anymore with posting these than I have to. If you wish to contact me, feel free to on steam, and you're free to screenshot and post the chat logs here as evidence to be used in the investigation.
Ban ID: 7463
Banned by: [L²] Doctor Internet (
Server: Rockford
Ban Reason: Insulting players / Toxicity in OOC. You have 1000 hours, are former staff, and have 3 priors for OOC infractions. You should know better.
Why should you be unbanned?: First of all, the extent of what I said is hardly anything bad. I called Wesley a 'stinker' and said I 'cried tears of happiness when his boyfriend got demoted' which is probably perhaps the most extreme extent of my 'insults.' That's pretty tame; come on, you'd hear that in a schoolyard.
Furthermore, it's not like I was harassing the guy. At no point did Wesley say 'please leave me alone or I will post a player report' etc. This was a mutual exchange. One of his replies was 'I bet you cry a lot' and the stinker jokes were somewhat adopted by Wesley himself. He also mocked my previous forum bans. Why am I alone punished, especially this harshly, and not him also? Or why are we not both left to go about our business, because it is not the duty of the administrators to solve personal conflicts? This isn't couples' therapy.
Lastly, I'd like to point out this ban was not issued in the correct fashion of a formal report. The ban was issued at 4PM, well after I had left the server. This means the administrator was not online at the time and thus must have issued the ban through evidence supplied to him by means other than the forum. While this is not inherently wrong, it raises questions when it appears that an administrator who undoubtedly has it in for me (please don't turn this thread into trying to argue this point otherwise we all already know it's true) was chosen as the one to review it by Wesley, rather than it being left to random chance in the report section. Really makes you think.
So clearly there is some discrepancy of justice here. As far as I see it there are two outcomes that can fairly come from this:
1. My ban is deemed unnecessary and is revoked, being removed from record.
2. Wesley receives a fitting punishment for his parallel involvement in the 'toxicity'
Subnote for this option: A simple slap on the wrist doesn't cut it here. I have 1000 hours, but Wesley has 1700. I might be a previous administrator, but if you're going to take away the recognition I deserve for that service, why should I act like it?
I know, Dr. Internet, that you will most likely want to deal with this case yourself. You could always instantly close it like you love to but another curious staff member, perhaps even bright eyed and bushy tailed like I once was when I did this, may look into the logs to find the truth to this situation, as I have already laid out. You wouldn't want that jeopardy on your position, you've seen what happened last time there.
You can make the choice, or there's always the possibility of passing it over to another non-affiliated staff member who may treat it more fairly.
Evidence: Check it yourself. Everything I've said is, to the best of my recollection, true, but it's all available in the server logs in text format. I didn't collect evidence at the time because, obviously, I didn't expect to be banned for SEVEN DAYS for something as ludicrous as this.
I will not be (by proxy) replying to this thread, not because I lack the required effort, but simply because I don't want to bother my friends anymore with posting these than I have to. If you wish to contact me, feel free to on steam, and you're free to screenshot and post the chat logs here as evidence to be used in the investigation.