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Your Name: Cherno

Ban ID: 7090

Banned by: [L²] Nightmare
Server: Rockford

Ban Reason:Gen rule 1.5 // if I do not grant you permission, that means do not go ahead - not do it anyway. Your conduct was extremely disrespectful to skip around my decision. Numerous punishments over the past couple weeks too.

Why should you be unbanned?: I didn't do what was said in the ban.


I asked if I could do a communist regime RP, and I was told no, fair enough. I then made a single communist law and some propaganda broadcasts, which did not influence anyone at all. I then did an RP briefing with the head of SWAT and police, where I basically told them to behave and not wave around their guns etc. I even said this and asked if it still considered it dictator rp and that I did not intend to disrespect. No response, I wasn't even really told what I did was not allowed, only that it was "disrespectful". I was told I couldn't do dictator RP since I had not had time to RP, but as soon as I start doing my RP Nightmare talked about me not following the rules.

So according to Nightmare a dictatorship:
-Is open to suggestions and opinions from the public
-Is not enforcing any restrictions on freedom of speech 
-Is not restricting individual freedom in any way
-Makes sure police do not abuse civilians



What did I do that's considered dictator RP?I listened to admin decisions, I did not make a communist REGIME, I just roleplayed as a communist leader. My police was not communist, my VP was not communist, my laws were not communist, NOTHING except me was communist. Please don't close this thread until I have time to reply.

xoxo

The staff-members have received your unban-request, Cherno.

It will take a while for it to be reviewed.

Quote:I asked if I could do a communist regime RP, and I was told no, fair enough. I then made a single communist law and some propaganda broadcasts

Judging from this sentence alone, did you not do what the staff member in question told you NOT to do? Was he not clear enough about you NOT being allowed to do a communist RP?

Quote: I did not make a communist REGIME, I just roleplayed as a communist leader.

This is a very weird excuse. Does a communist regime not have a communist leader though? Did the staff-member in question ask you to "steer" away from a communistic RP?

(May 14, 2018, 10:02 PM)Enzyme Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:I asked if I could do a communist regime RP, and I was told no, fair enough. I then made a single communist law and some propaganda broadcasts

Judging from this sentence alone, did you not do what the staff member in question told you NOT to do? Was he not clear enough about you NOT being allowed to do a communist RP?

Just because a leader has a certain political view doesn't mean the country has a regime with the same view. He told me not to dom communist regime RP, not not to do communist RP. He even told me I had to RP my way to a dictatorship, and how would I do that without being a communist myself?

Quote: I did not make a communist REGIME, I just roleplayed as a communist leader.

This is a very weird excuse. Does a communist regime not have a communist leader though? Did the staff-member in question ask you to "steer" away from a communistic RP?

I don't see how this is relevant. The nazi's had a democratically elected leader leader. Do all democratic countries have totalitarian regimes? Not to mention communism =/= dictatorship. Of course not, the question should be whether a leader can be a communist in a country without a communist regime. A republican is the POTUS, does america have a republican regime? No! They have the congress and whatnot. I even had a VP who was not a communist at all. In fact, I was the only communist official. And no, he did not tell me to steer away from communist rp, he even told me to RP and build my way up as a communist dictator. ( indirectly)

My "communist party shit" was just that, communist party shit. I was in no way being a dictator. I must have missed the message where you confirmed that you thought I was a dictator, but I was briefing the cops not to hold anyone, not even other cops above the law and that all were subjects to the same laws.

I didn't do any dictatorRP, and as far as I know broadcasting is not forbidden. Could you please tell me exactly how I was being a dictator? Not to mention you never told me I was not allowed to be communist so I don't understand how I broke that rule.

I asked for you to confir  since staff can be a pain in the ass when it comes to how they interpret things. I didn't ask because I was unsure, the rules are clear. As for me asking the same thing, you told me I had to rp to a communist regime and thus I asked if I could slowly turn rockford into a communist regime.

I'll be deferring the judgement of this case to HR to avoid my own feelings impacting the outcome of this, as you seriously irritated me by stepping over my own decision and I don't wish for this to cloud my judgement. However, my denial was for your RP - not for your "dictatorship". I find it strangely unrealistic to jump straight into things, rather than developing it up and immediately start trying to brainwash citizens with a form of propaganda.

I told you no.
You went ahead with it anyway.
You were punished.

That's what rule 1.5 is there for, to make it abundantly clear that staff directive should be followed. In this case, it was not, and you were punished.

I'm ready for HR to conclude at their discretion.

Reviewed and concluded as per request. 

After reviewing the case and going through logs, I've determined that there's nothing to suggest that the ban is in any way invalid or unfair. The banned player was warned, and the staff-member in question was clear enough with his words for the banned player to realize that he was crossing the line.

Denied.
No reason to reduce or remove ban. Ban deemed valid. User was warned and crossed the line instead of listening.