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(Jan 9, 2018, 06:14 AM)Luvbread Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jan 9, 2018, 06:05 AM)IsThisaNewFLRP? Wrote: [ -> ]Why whenever there's a special occasion (or whenever needed) the Police does something called "die Rettungsgasse" or In my land known as "Traffic Break" and do you think this kind of procedure in the Authobahn is good or bad and if so, why?

A "Rettungsgasse" can happen on any street actually. Most people dont know that youre supposed to create one within closed up areas whenever there is a traffic jam or a gov. vehicle wants to pass.

According to § 38 I StVO every trafic user (pedestrians are also traffic users) has to make way for any gov. vehicle using its horn in combination with the blue light. By creating a traffic break they fullfill their duty.

I personally think the Rettungsgasse is amazing. Not only do the traffic users show responsibilty, but also the understanding that it is more important to let a gov. vehicle on duty pass, the saving of lifes being more important than the quick navigate trough traffic.

The traffic break on the Autobahn only accures once an accident already happened and a jam created itself. It doesnt hurt anyone to move aside to create a path for gov. vehicles. I wouldnt see any argument for not creating that break.

Matter of fact the Rettungsgasse wasnt an idea of the government. at some point the drivers decided them selves that it would be a good idea to make way for emergency vehicles, then the government saw this and added a law which states what he said earlier. Nowadays you can even get fined for not creating one and it is even taught in the normal driving schools.

(if you havent realized yet, im german)

How does the german police function?

I know they have district forces, but is there a federal type system, etc?

(Jan 9, 2018, 06:44 PM)Luvbread Wrote: [ -> ]

• > Sports Test:
  > Cooper Test (12 Min of constant running, you need to achieve a distance of atleast 5500m, which is more than it sounds)
  

That is literally impossible.

You would need an average speed of 27 km/h to complete that distance in that time frame. 

Just for reference Mo Farah (an olympic long distance runner) completed the 1500m at an average speed of 26.09 km/h, are you sure youre statistics are accurate? :P

OT: Do german police regularly carry firearms, or is it specialised officers only?

(Aug 13, 2018, 12:21 PM)Apex Wrote: [ -> ]How does the german police function?

I know they have district forces, but is there a federal type system, etc?

After now 55 minutes of writing and accidently closing the Tab.
Here again, I dont have anything better to do anyway.

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(Aug 13, 2018, 12:52 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jan 9, 2018, 06:44 PM)Luvbread Wrote: [ -> ]

• > Sports Test:
  > Cooper Test (12 Min of constant running, you need to achieve a distance of atleast 5500m, which is more than it sounds)
  

That is literally impossible.

You would need an average speed of 27 km/h to complete that distance in that time frame. 

Just for reference Mo Farah (an olympic long distance runner) completed the 1500m at an average speed of 26.09 km/h, are you sure youre statistics are accurate?

OT: Do german police regularly carry firearms, or is it specialised officers only?

It's 2,4km (2400m) in 12 minutes. I think he made a typo.
And yes, every officer carries a firearm and they usually have an H&K Mp5 in their trunk.

why are german cops so militarized?!??!? look at exibit A here with their big scary gear and vehicles



and then you have your typical american officer and patrol car here




BIG DIFFERENCE EUROPE?!?!??!

also here are german cops ATTACKING citizens for the fun of it



yet here are our protecting and service police hugging minority boys 



EXPLAIN???!?!??!?!

(Aug 13, 2018, 07:20 PM)Venom Wrote: [ -> ]why are german cops so militarized?!??!? look at exibit A here with their big scary gear and vehicles

Those are forces of the SEK ("Sondereinsatzkommando") of Hamburg. This picture was made during the presentation of a new armored car (which can be seen in the background). German police forces barely have any "big" armored cars nor militarized forces.

Oh I forgot to mention this. "Unfortunately", Germany does not need militarized police forces like the US because our citizens aren't armed like a private army.

(Aug 13, 2018, 12:21 PM)Apex Wrote: [ -> ]How does the german police function?

I know they have district forces, but is there a federal type system, etc?

I've completely forgot about the post! Im so sorry - I left LimeLight for a while.

The German Police is seperated into two big federal forces:

• Bundespolizei: A law enforcement insitution created to secure Germanys borders, including airports, trainstations, etc.
  
• Landespolizei: A law enforcement insitution to cover the rest (basically). Each state in germany has its own police force, equiped with different uniforms, police specific laws and tasks. Policeworks therefore differs from state to state and cant be seen equal in germany. I'll be talking about the state bavaria in this thread here.
  

The Landespolizei itself has several devisions itself:

• Bereitschaftspolizei (Riot Devision): Pretty self explenetory. There to cover protests, events including big masses of people (Political meetings, football games etc), keeping public uproar under control etc.
  > The Bereitschaftspolizei only has one headquater, that being located in Bamberg.
  
  
• Schutzpolizei (Officers on Patrol): Those are the ones the citizens will deal with most of the time. They are stationed around the state in police departments doing whatever you'd expect police officers to do.
  
  Now, as a part of the Schutzpolizei you will be a member of a Regierungsbezirk (Gov. disctrict). In bavaria those would be:
  
  > Oberfranken
  > Unterfranken
  > Mittelfranken
  > Oberpfalz
  > Schwaben
  > Oberbayern
  > Niederbayern
  
  Each of those discricts has its own Headquater for the Police which is in charge of the police stations.
  
• Kriminalpolizei (Special Crime Investigators): Usually called whenever a major crime needs to be investigated. Are part of the same structure as the Schutzpolizei.
  
• Spezialeinheiten (Special units) like the SEK, MEK, USK etc.
  (Spezialeinsatzkommando (Comparable to SWAT), Mobiles Einsatzkommando (Observation Unit), Unterstützungskommando (Part of the Bereitschaftspolizei, basically an extra brutal devision within the riot devision.)
  
• Wasserschutzpolizei (Police on a boat)
  
• And others, which are so uncommon that id think a little harder to remember them.
  

However, to all of this there is a twist: There is something called "Allzuständigkeit" in Germany, allowing police officers of any state to use the police laws of another state without being an officer of that state if needed to investigate or prevent a crime.

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OT: Do german police regularly carry firearms, or is it specialised officers only?

They always do. It is a must have. Police officers are even allowed to carry their firearm privatly once offduty. Considering germanys harsh guns and weaponlaws this really is an unusual fact, isnt it?

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State Police (Landespolizei)

The state police in each country include the enforcement police, which is what is commonly understood today as "the police". Their duties include protection police and criminal police. However, the demarcation of the two areas, as well as the subdivision of the protection police, is very different. Furthermore, training and further education facilities and, if necessary, a police administrative office and also the riot police belong to the state police.

A little incorrect. The Landespolizei itself is basically only the entire structure as one, giving tasks to each subdevision that you have listen here. The two areas you are listing here (Prävention (Gefahrenabwehrend (Preventing Crimes and Dangers from the general public)) and Repression (Investigating crime)) are two fields out of the lawtext (PAG and StPO). All members of the Landespolizei have those tasks, not bound to a devision.

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The State Police has 2 special Police forces.

They have more. USK and MEK just to name two more.

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Nebula:

There is also the so called "Ordnungsamt", "Sicherheitswacht" or "Stadtpolizei" the City police.
Vehicles can differ from federal state to federal state and from city to city.
They are either paid by the city or the federal state.

Their task is for example.. like handing out parking tickets, checking on people that are known to be a danger to themself and other, telling people that they cant do stuff x at place y.

You have mixed up three very different institutions:

• Ordnungsamt: The Ordnungsamt is the enforcing arm of each local community. As the local community is the Sicherheitsbehörde, the community itself would have to prevent dangers from happening (EG: Building is about to collapse, a street is built or damaged dangerously, someone tried to kill himself and they request him to visit a psyhatric clinic) etc. However, the Ordnungsamt workers are no officials and therefore do not own any powers. Whenever a letter or fines wont do, they need to request the police to execute their decisions. (Such as: Einweisungen, Räumungen, Unterbindungen von Veranstaltungen etc. etc)
  
• Sicherheitswacht: This is a group of very poorly trained citizens equiped with none or nearly none powers. They usually take about 2 weeks to train each and consist of people that (As we call it) want to play police without actually being police. Their tasks are to go around the city and be there, and radio in to the police whenever something is actually happening.
  
• Stadtpolizei (Or as we call it: Police Light Light or Ordnungsamt Plus): Similar to the Ordnungsamt, but with more training (Aprox a year) and actual powers. They are bound to a specific city (Instead of actual police officers are bound to the state but are allowed to use their powers in entire germany). They are there to assist the local community.
  

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One side note.

Pilots of medical helicopters are usually pilots from the State police. However, there are also pilots that are directly employed by the medical service.

As all police officers are.

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All Police cruisers have 2 bulletproof vests and 1 MP5 in the trunk.

Negative. The location of the machine pistol is mostly kept secrety and differs from vehicle to vehicle. But i can ensure you that it is never in the trunk.

(Aug 13, 2018, 08:19 PM)Nebula Wrote: [ -> ]

Fuck me... Im just gonna make a quick move to Deutschland then.

(Oct 8, 2018, 09:57 PM)Insert Wrote: [ -> ]

(Aug 13, 2018, 08:19 PM)Nebula Wrote: [ -> ]

Fuck me... Im just gonna make a quick move to Deutschland then.

Don't forget to fill out the right forms before doing so!

(Oct 16, 2018, 04:39 PM)Jeff Ford Wrote: [ -> ] 

Which federal government force protects the chancellor?

Senate Guard

(Oct 16, 2018, 04:39 PM)Jeff Ford Wrote: [ -> ] 

Which federal government force protects the chancellor?

Oof! That is something i normally have absolutely nothing to do with.

As far as i know and was told it works like following:

• Inside the Bundestag (Parliament): Protected by the "Polizei des Deutschen Bundestages" (Police of the german Parliament)
  The Police of the german parliament - once called Hausinspektion (House Inspection) - started off as a security service. They were there to maintain order within the Bundestag and on its Property, also on the one of the Bundesrat if im not mistaking, conduct identification checks on who can enter and who doesnt. As time went on the Houseinspection received more and more powers up to a point where it received its own Police Permission Law, finally being ranked up to a police department. I am sorry as my knowledge about the story of the Police of the Parliament is vague, but i hope that was enough to give you guys a basic idea about them.
  
• Outside the Bundestag - BKA - Bundeskriminalamt - Federal Criminal Investigation Department
  The BKA functions as a haven between all federal police agencies - As ive previously mentioned each state in germany has its own. It is a contact person for foreign police organisations, saving a central police database for special operations (Bundeskanfreigabe), and other tasks like classifying (new or older) weapons for the german weapon laws. However they also have agents that are dedicated to protect politicians, including the Chancellor.