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(Dec 2, 2017, 01:39 AM)Gungranny Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec 2, 2017, 01:31 AM)Fly Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you people think there's only two choices? iPhone or Samsung?

Samsung is pretty shit at making phones. Go figure. It's just the Apple of Android.
Get yourself a One-Plus and tell me Samsung is good.

Apple and Samsung are good.

iPhones are overpriced "stylish" devices for people who should either just get an old Motorola or is a show-off teenager who uses all their money Supreme and Jake Paul albums.

Samsung are overpriced "stylish" devices for people who like android, but don't know that there are other phones in existence.
(Dec 2, 2017, 01:42 AM)Fly Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec 2, 2017, 01:39 AM)Gungranny Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec 2, 2017, 01:31 AM)Fly Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you people think there's only two choices? iPhone or Samsung?

Samsung is pretty shit at making phones. Go figure. It's just the Apple of Android.
Get yourself a One-Plus and tell me Samsung is good.

Apple and Samsung are good.

iPhones are overpriced "stylish" devices for people who should either just get an old Motorola or is a show-off teenager who uses all their money Supreme and Jake Paul albums.

Samsung are overpriced "stylish" devices for people who like android, but don't know that there are other phones in existence.

B-But...but I don't like Jake Paul and I don't show off Sad

Samsungs are nice from what my parents say. Mostly just uses it for work, but enjoys the ability to have it as a distraction (Plus it was cheaper than an Android or any other option with their upgrade).

Sounds like someone just doesn't like to read the good side of these phones
Tbh for a laptop my Macbook is the best one I've ever had considering its been going for well over 3 years, doubling the lifespan of any other I've had. And thanks to its Flash SSD it's just as fast as the day I got it. I don't however update OSX anymore on it considering everything I want works fine.

And it's also worth mentioning I've switched back to Android and Nokia from iPhone after both of mine kamakazied in some way in the first year 

I've also never liked Samsung phones, there's something about the edge screen that puts me off considering literally everyone I know who has one has broken it. I'll always go for a more sturdy phone, it used to be HTC I'd favour for that but now it's Nokia since HTC has for some reason stopped making good phones instead opting for a bendy one?

I think the main disappointing thing for apple is it's pricing I mean I saw a iPhone X for £80 a month with an upfront cost. Call me a bit simple but I could never justify that on a phone. However you still must respect their marketing I guess and when I next need a laptop for work I'll be looking to apple first (but only for work, Windows for my desktop any day)
(Dec 2, 2017, 01:42 AM)Fly Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec 2, 2017, 01:39 AM)Gungranny Wrote: [ -> ]
(Dec 2, 2017, 01:31 AM)Fly Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you people think there's only two choices? iPhone or Samsung?

Samsung is pretty shit at making phones. Go figure. It's just the Apple of Android.
Get yourself a One-Plus and tell me Samsung is good.

Apple and Samsung are good.

iPhones are overpriced "stylish" devices for people who should either just get an old Motorola or is a show-off teenager who uses all their money Supreme and Jake Paul albums.

Samsung are overpriced "stylish" devices for people who like android, but don't know that there are other phones in existence.

I'm not saying it's either Apple or Samsung. As a matter of fact, I follow the smartphone scene quite a bit as an enthusiast, and I'm not a big fan of either Apple (for how they lock down their ecosystem and limit customisability) or Samsung (for their laggy performance and bloatware).

However, they are the general consumer recommendations because they are guaranteed to have an excellent camera and (generally) battery life, which are the most important aspects for most people.

The thing about iPhones is that they simply work, and what they can do, they do it well. Apps are usually developed for iOS first, which means that they will generally be better designed, more stable and better optimised. Extreme examples of this are the social media apps, especially Snapchat, which fails to use the Camera2 API, resulting in sending poorer quality pictures than iPhone users would send (even if the camera quality itself should be better). Most of the time, you'll find yourself having a smooth, fast, consistent experience, although iOS 11 has been a bit of a disaster with the glitches and poor optimisation. This means that most iPhone users will hold onto their current model for quite a long time; it's not rare to see an iPhone 5 or iPhone 6 in the room today.

With iPhones, you take these advantages and sacrifice user customisability, a high initial cost and slower implementation of convenience features such as fast charging and third-party keyboards.

Samsung phones have their excellent design principles for the most part, and the build quality is solid. They have quite a few convenience features which have taken other manufacturers years to implement, such as multi-window tasking and dual-pixel auto-focus. One unique feature I'd admire is Samsung Pay, which works with MST payments as well as NFC, meaning you can use it for most credit card terminals where Android Pay and Apple Pay would fail to work. Samsung's cameras are always of high quality, and they're mainstream phones so accessories are easy to find. Battery life is also good for the most part.

The issue with Samsung phones is that their fingerprint sensor placement has been terrible for the past three phones, but this may change with the next generation (hopefully). Their phones don't perform particularly well when they've just been released (with the Note 8 being an exception), and they age horribly, with stuttering and lag becoming more common over time. Their edge screens are also a gimmick; they reduce the amount of useful screen area, and dust becomes a big problem when you use bumper cases on phones with these curved edge screens.

Motorola produce good budget phones, but they aren't a good option for anybody who is looking for a mid-range to flagship phone. They perform quite smoothly with a stock-ish Android experience, but the camera and design are subpar.

OnePlus have great phones which can compete with the flagships at a sub-flagship price. They also have a stock-ish Android experience and they perform particularly quickly, but perhaps not as smoothly as iPhones or Pixel phones. They're gradually narrowing the gap between their phones and the mainstream flagships, but the cameras aren't anywhere good enough, and there have been some privacy issues.

For the future, I'd say Google's Pixel lineup would be very successful once they can sort out their quality control. Their phones are the smoothest (arguably even smoother than iPhones) and one of the fastest (only behind iPhones). Google's HDR+ algorithms combined with excellent camera sensors results in Pixel phones being the best for the cameras, and integration with Google's apps is fantastic, especially with Google Photos (arguably one of the best Android apps made), where you'll get free unlimited storage to store all those 4k videos and high-resolution photos. The only things holding Google back are quality control issues (although I've personally been pretty lucky with my Pixel 2 XL), price and third-party app development.
(Dec 2, 2017, 02:02 PM)Barkles Wrote: [ -> ]Tbh for a laptop my Macbook is the best one I've ever had considering its been going for well over 3 years, doubling the lifespan of any other I've had. And thanks to its Flash SSD it's just as fast as the day I got it. I don't however update OSX anymore on it considering everything I want works fine.

And it's also worth mentioning I've switched back to Android and Nokia from iPhone after both of mine kamakazied in some way in the first year 

I've also never liked Samsung phones, there's something about the edge screen that puts me off considering literally everyone I know who has one has broken it. I'll always go for a more sturdy phone, it used to be HTC I'd favour for that but now it's Nokia since HTC has for some reason stopped making good phones instead opting for a bendy one?

I think the main disappointing thing for apple is it's pricing I mean I saw a iPhone X for £80 a month with an upfront cost. Call me a bit simple but I could never justify that on a phone. However you still must respect their marketing I guess and when I next need a laptop for work I'll be looking to apple first (but only for work, Windows for my desktop any day)

I'd say price depends on how much and how long you'll use your phone for. It can easily be seen as worth it if you'll be keeping it for a while, and iPhones age very well. Their SoCs (processors) are a generation or two ahead of Qualcomm's Snapdragon chips on Android phones.

Nokia's return to the smartphone scene has been quite successful, they just need to ramp up their marketing a bit. HTC phones are getting up to par with the flagships now though, and I believe the U11+'s design is more sturdy than the U11's.
Slip ups happen sometimes. Samsung made a ticking time bomb once apon a time.
(Dec 2, 2017, 01:31 AM)Fly Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you people think there's only two choices? iPhone or Samsung?

Samsung is pretty shit at making phones. Go figure. It's just the Apple of Android.
Get yourself a One-Plus and tell me Samsung is good.

I used to have a Oneplus 2, my father owns a Oneplus 3T. I stopped getting them after their prices went up and innovation went down.
(Although I do miss the Sandstone Black back)
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