Name of Player: [L²:RP] VλTIPÄÄ (#teamV5P)
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:122711907
Server: Rockford
Time: (In UTC+0) 9:48amEST
Summary: Random Raid. No way to know I had contraband, no RP relation (as in never seen the dude in character to supply a reason.) User even stated in ooc that he is a gang member doing aggressive rp, then tried to say I violated rule 13.3 because I have a front location, which makes me laugh. His job was citizen set to custom job = Gang Member. There wasn't anyway for him to know I had the contraband without first coming inside, as I had taken measures to prevent drawing attention to myself and the contraband. I tried to settle this via @ in game, but the staff member was too busy apparently. Not too busy to tell me to stop talking about it, simply too busy to investigate the situation, which was disheartening. I'm sure the user will have plenty of excuses for how I actually had contraband, but likely won't be able to show how he knew I had it in the first place.
Evidence: ![[Image: 4105574C2F90723A472F81D792193C4867692B2F]](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/876375362410674918/4105574C2F90723A472F81D792193C4867692B2F/)
![[Image: 2E62AF612459DCBABD70970D57CC4AB538729B64]](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/876375362410677400/2E62AF612459DCBABD70970D57CC4AB538729B64/)
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First of all, rule 13.3: Do not FailRP. Car thieves need chop-shops, and burglars need places to store their stolen goods. Proper background RP draws the line between crime and rule-breaking.
I was doing gang roleplay. I robbed you on purpose to get money to the gang. That is one of the methods the gang gets money. And I really dont understand what you mean "no way he knew that he knew I had contraband. I was coming to rob your house to get money for my gang. Of course I can RP stealing other stuff from your house/base.
I think that you are clearly salty because you lost your contaband money.
I was an anarchist, whom had a warehouse, in the industrial area, called a warehouse, that had props to support it's outside look. Where is the fail rp? You raided my house cause you wanted money, yet you had no evidence to support that there was anything inside the house. You just admitted again, that you raided cause of your job.
Or is "I rob houses to get money" a valid reason to raid a WAREHOUSE?
(Nov 8, 2017, 05:13 PM)Jokhah Wrote: [ -> ]I was an anarchist, whom had a warehouse, in the industrial area, called a warehouse, that had props to support it's outside look. Where is the fail rp? You raided my house cause you wanted money, yet you had no evidence to support that there was anything inside the house. You just admitted again, that you raided cause of your job.
3.5 - Custom job titles must state what character you intend to roleplay, and you must roleplay the chosen job accurately (e.g do not RP as a secret agent when your job is set to Chef)
I am not repeating myself. Check the rule 13.3. I was doing gang RP. I robbed you because it's one of the ways the gang gets money.
Walker Gang
There is even a thread of the roleplay.
13.3 indicates Fail RP, which I didn't do.
Setting a custom job and saying to yourself "I rob for money" is the same as saying "I raided cause you owned a door and I'm a raiding class." You never interacted with me, you didn't know what was inside. You just had a lockpick, a gun, a cracker, and a job title. If that's all it takes to raid people here, I'm at a loss and this can be closed.
Pretty sure you need something more to go on, like knowing who lives there, which you didn't cause I was in the house the whole time your activity took place. Unless you metagamed to know I was an anarchist, that information wasn't revealed to you till after you cracked the door and saw me shooting at you. There are other possible ways to know, but seeing as you didn't already state them, it's apparent that you didn't know.
(Nov 8, 2017, 05:25 PM)Jokhah Wrote: [ -> ]13.3 indicates Fail RP, which I didn't do.
Setting a custom job and saying to yourself "I rob for money" is the same as saying "I raided cause you owned a door and I'm a raiding class." You never interacted with me, you didn't know what was inside. You just had a lockpick, a gun, a cracker, and a job title. If that's all it takes to raid people here, I'm at a loss and this can be closed.
Pretty sure you need something more to go on, like knowing who lives there, which you didn't cause I was in the house the whole time your activity took place. Unless you metagamed to know I was an anarchist, that information wasn't revealed to you till after you cracked the door and saw me shooting at you.
The 13.3 is for me, I had proper background rp going on. And btw I dont care are you an anarchist or not, I robbed you because I was getting money for my gang, and btw I heard the contra because it makes sound.
Oh, now you say you heard it. Magically that comes up, even though it was absent till I pointed out that you didn't say it. Seems legit, but it's obvious that you didn't hear it. Had you, you would have said in the first reply "I heard your stuff." Instead you went on about your excuse of your job being the reason, with your lil "I do it for the money." excuse. Don't lie bro, because one it wasn't close enough to the door to hear it, and two, I had radios on either side to cover the sound.
infact i have done /evoradio settings and turned the volume down
also, you entered the garage door first, which was even further away and well out of range. You heard it after you came inside through the garage, then you came in the main door. Facts.
(Nov 8, 2017, 05:40 PM)Jokhah Wrote: [ -> ]also, you entered the garage door first, which was even further away and well out of range. You heard it after you came inside through the garage, then you came in the main door. Facts.
What is wrong with that? I heard the sounds from outside. I can record you a video where I show the range you can hear the sounds
Just so you know, the build wasn't a throw together build. I've measured the placement of the contraband to avoid front door lukers waiting for the tone. Besides, it would have been more believeable if you said you heard the UV lights, which you can't from outside, but they are a bit more noticeable.
You accused me of being salty. My question to this, why shouldn't I be salty when I know I just lost money to someone whom broke the rules?
Please, if you have a video, I'd love to see it and hear the sound happen. I know there is no video of it because you can't hear it outside. As I said, I measured the distance and I sat and listened for over 3 ticks and didn't hear a single one. I had to go back into the warehouse just to make sure it even ticked.
Rulebreakers are one thing, but liars are much more annoying.
(Nov 8, 2017, 05:47 PM)Jokhah Wrote: [ -> ]Just so you know, the build wasn't a throw together build. I've measured the placement of the contraband to avoid front door lukers waiting for the tone. Besides, it would have been more believeable if you said you heard the UV lights, which you can't from outside, but they are a bit more noticeable.
I still heard the sounds from outside
You accused me of being salty. My question to this, why shouldn't I be salty when I know I just lost money to someone whom broke the rules?
I still didnt break rules. I even robbed today and his contramoney. But I got killed by him tho. I am tired of repyling to this, repeating the same things. I robbed you because that is the way my gang gets money. That is what everyone does in the server. I have got robbed like 100 times with that way. But still my reason was because I did gang rp, I had a background RP going, check the rule 13.3