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Name: [F.I] Agorith

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Long story short: 

Equipped police uniform for the first time -> person that I was going to use it against got blacklisted from Police -> Wasted suit after having worn it for like 10 seconds.

Pls refund
Thank u kindly 

Much love

*coughs* 5 days so far for something this tiny? Alright alright..

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(Oct 18, 2017, 10:50 PM)Vatipää Wrote: [ -> ]Please use template

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Have done that now, though it doesn't really excuse the lack of aknowledgement of such a simple refund request.
If anything they're complicating it because the longer this takes the more details I'm just going to forget which obviously is a disadvantage for my case here.

Whatever though, I just want it back so I can continue making folks on LL happy by giving all my shit away to them.
Guess nobody's getting the police uniform.

I mean I'm not an admin or anything but I doubt you'll be given a refund if you intentionally used the item and changed your mind after.

I've seen this but was reluctant till I was informed about why it gets lost after one use. I myself lost it the same way, and it is ones fault although a game mechanic. I wish I still had it but, I lost it so it was in a way intentional use&lose.

(Oct 19, 2017, 06:10 PM)monk Wrote: [ -> ]I mean I'm not an admin or anything but I doubt you'll be given a refund if you intentionally used the item and changed your mind after.

I never changed my mind, it was intended on being used for 1 specific particular roleplay situation, the person who this was going to get used against got blacklisted from the police force hence making it all useless.

(Oct 19, 2017, 06:12 PM)Bambo Wrote: [ -> ]I've seen this but was reluctant till I was informed about why it gets lost after one use. I myself lost it the same way, and it is ones fault although a game mechanic. I wish I still had it but, I lost it so it was in a way intentional use&lose.

How would it have been your fault if you lost it in the same situation?
What am I, an oracle?

Intentional use, correct.
However the roleplay situation it was about to be used in got shut down by administrative powers, which in no way is anyone's fault at all.

Don't really see a reason not to refund it.

I've been a player on LL for a long time now, seen a few of these cases and to be honest you can't really do much about it. Refunding the person for it wouldn't really make sense and they intentionally used it but also it could be refunded as it was "wasted".

It's just one of those tricky decisions to make for the admins.

(Oct 19, 2017, 06:20 PM)Agorith Wrote: [ -> ]

(Oct 19, 2017, 06:12 PM)Bambo Wrote: [ -> ]I've seen this but was reluctant till I was informed about why it gets lost after one use. I myself lost it the same way, and it is ones fault although a game mechanic. I wish I still had it but, I lost it so it was in a way intentional use&lose.

How would it have been your fault if you lost it in the same situation?
What am I, an oracle?

Intentional use, correct.
However the roleplay situation it was about to be used in got shut down by administrative powers, which in no way is anyone's fault at all.

Don't really see a reason not to refund it.

I didn't lose it in the same situation, but lost it in the same way, not knowing I will lose it, intentionally using it. Will need to have the person who blacklisted the person talk about it to make a decision. His call and not mine at this point

(Oct 19, 2017, 10:59 PM)Cole__ Wrote: [ -> ]I've been a player on LL for a long time now, seen a few of these cases and to be honest you can't really do much about it. Refunding the person for it wouldn't really make sense and they intentionally used it but also it could be refunded as it was "wasted".

It's just one of those tricky decisions to make for the admins.

I'm a former administrator from FL (So more or less the same concept) and I've dealt with plenty of cases such as mine in the past.
There's not much you can do about it as a regular player, if the staff team has no proper guidelines for it, that much is true indeed.
Not refunding the player in cases such as these is what lacks sense, it's really not the other way around lol.

I can tell many would find it a 'tricky situation' however it really isn't, this is (supposed to be atleast) a very easily solvable case.

The item in question has intentionally been equipped, correct.
However just to put it in a different perspective, imagine player X dropped a vehicle for player Y to pick up.
However the server crashes (a server side administrative issue) and player Y never got the chance to pick up said vehicle.
Once the server reboots, you can pretty much say with absolute certainty that player X will be recompensated with the particular item.

Whilst I realise this is a different situation and 'every' situation supposedly gets treated with it's own appropriate response in return, it's safe to say cases such as mine should be treated in an equal matter.
Player X equips (in this particular case a fairly hard to come by item with high value) a police uniform intended on near immediate usage, however the roleplay situation comes to an end instantly afterwards due to player Y having dealt with an administrative issue.

This is in no way player X's fault, and not anything (s)he could have predicted.
Therefore it is only fair for player X to be recompensated. (All due to the administrative action that put the situation to a stop)

I'd like to summon Doctor Internet, seeing as he was the staff member who was involved (but does not have the administrative power apparently to resolve the issue) to perhaps give out his take on this.

I'd like to move forward with this.

Straight up fucking ridiculous really the amount of time this has to take.
If you have no intention of dealing with this request, or any others for that matter it seems, simply say it straight up and close them.