German elections 2017: Angela Merkel wins fourth term but AfD makes gains, exit poll says
Angela Merkel is heading for a fourth term as Germany’s chancellor after her centre-right CDU party and its CSU sister party won 32% of the vote, initial exit polls have projected.
The estimation puts the Christian Democrats comfortably ahead of their outgoing coalition partner and main rival, the Social Democrat SPD party led by Martin Schulz, which ended a miserable campaign with just 20% – a near rout.
But as predicted, the far-right, anti-immigration AfD has spoiled the chancellor’s party, clearing the 5% parliamentary threshold for the first time in its four-year history with a score of 13%, making it the third largest party in the Bundestag and possibly the official opposition.
The smaller, pro-business FDP party, Merkel’s favoured coalition partner, looks set to return to parliament after missing out in 2013 with a share of 10%, while the Green party won 9% and the left-wing Die Linke 9%.
19:00 - ARD
Ach komm drecks Afd... ^^
Kinda upset with the results.
RIP, a few more years of Ayatollah Merkel.
I'm suprised the AfD has made it into third place with 13%, that in my opinion is pretty significant considering the last I had checked they didn't make it in the top 5 in 2013.
Well people voted for the AfD because they were dissapointed with the Union and the other Parties. But there are way better options than the AfD imo.
(Sep 24, 2017, 06:39 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote: [ -> ]RIP, a few more years of Ayatollah Merkel.
I highly doubt that you know enough about Germany and German politics as well as Angela Merkel that you are in a place to criticize her.
If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me and tell me why exactly Chancellor Merkels politics aren't in your favor.
(Sep 25, 2017, 02:25 PM)T-Bone Wrote: [ -> ]Well people voted for the AfD because they were dissapointed with the Union and the other Parties. But there are way better options than the AfD imo.
In my opinion, this is only halfway true. Yes, many AfD voted for CDU/CSU and SPD last year BUT right politicians are on the rise in all of Europe. I don't think that the Coalition's politics affected the thoughts of people around the EU.
In conclusion, I don't agree that CDU/CSU and SPD are the only reason why people changed their mind (considering the political tensions in the EU atm).
(Sep 25, 2017, 04:13 AM)Dig Wrote: [ -> ]I'm suprised the AfD has made it into third place with 13%, that in my opinion is pretty significant considering the last I had checked they didn't make it in the top 5 in 2013.
The AfD changed a lot since 2013. The even the founder of the party left it after the extreme amount of right-extremism.
On the other hand you are right: the rise of a party which is extreme right is VERY worrying.
(Sep 25, 2017, 09:41 PM)Rizion Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 25, 2017, 04:13 AM)Dig Wrote: [ -> ]I'm suprised the AfD has made it into third place with 13%, that in my opinion is pretty significant considering the last I had checked they didn't make it in the top 5 in 2013.
The AfD changed a lot since 2013. The even the founder of the party left it after the extreme amount of right-extremism.
On the other hand you are right: the rise of a party which is extreme right is VERY worrying.
I never said it worried me, it just suprised me. I think there needs to be a proper balance between the left and right in every country. All in all the people of Germany alone should be able to vote for what they desire to do with their country and without taking too much of a political stance I'd hope that whatever they choose has to do with moving forward and
improving the safety and lives of their citizens. Not focusing on the past but instead what could be accomplished in the future.
(Sep 25, 2017, 10:28 PM)Dig Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 25, 2017, 09:41 PM)Rizion Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 25, 2017, 04:13 AM)Dig Wrote: [ -> ]I'm suprised the AfD has made it into third place with 13%, that in my opinion is pretty significant considering the last I had checked they didn't make it in the top 5 in 2013.
The AfD changed a lot since 2013. The even the founder of the party left it after the extreme amount of right-extremism.
On the other hand you are right: the rise of a party which is extreme right is VERY worrying.
I never said it worried me, it just suprised me. I think there needs to be a proper balance between the left and right in every country. All in all the people of Germany alone should be able to vote for what they desire to do with their country and without taking too much of a political stance I'd hope that whatever they choose has to do with moving forward and
improving the safety and lives of their citizens. Not focusing on the past but instead what could be accomplished in the future.
Well, shouldn't the balance be in the middle? Do we really need two extremist fronts fighting each other?
I guess many people are just upset that the AfD, a party with some similarities with another extreme-right that turned Germany into a war-hungry nation, got voted by 13% of the voters.
(Sorry that I misunderstood/misread your first sentences. But in my eyes it is rather worrying than surprising)
(Sep 25, 2017, 09:27 PM)Rizion Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 24, 2017, 06:39 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote: [ -> ]RIP, a few more years of Ayatollah Merkel.
I highly doubt that you know enough about Germany and German politics as well as Angela Merkel that you are in a place to criticize her.
If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me and tell me why exactly Chancellor Merkels politics aren't in your favor.
Because I would like to visit Germany and not get publicly executed for not believing in the state religion of Islam.
This is just wonderful.. people fearing a Nazi Germany again just because of its history, in every country are some right wing politicians but when it is in Germany, hell no.. history says otherwise.. i'm just sick of this that there is always the history in the background.
-phone
^ take Poland as an example. Currently reigned by a right wing extremist party
(Sep 26, 2017, 01:50 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 25, 2017, 09:27 PM)Rizion Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 24, 2017, 06:39 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote: [ -> ]RIP, a few more years of Ayatollah Merkel.
I highly doubt that you know enough about Germany and German politics as well as Angela Merkel that you are in a place to criticize her.
If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me and tell me why exactly Chancellor Merkels politics aren't in your favor.
Because I would like to visit Germany and not get publicly executed for not believing in the state religion of Islam.
Alright.. this is really over the line of understandable things Octagon. Germany would be one of the
LAST country's which would "fall" into something like this. I hardly see how this "argument" or sentence make's any sense.
The federal republic of Germany is a
christian state and it will remain as one. Just because Germany took many refugees, it does not mean that we are in some kind a "islamic state".
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