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(Aug 29, 2017, 03:49 AM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ]"If it feels like it will get me in trouble, I probably shouldn't do it."

I feel like i am doing good stuff and not bad stuff but i still get in trouble cause the admin says i have to "go back to fearRP" after i already broke it by removing line of sight.

i follow written rules, they make up some bullshit
11pm Posting:

To be blunt, i do feel far more situations need to be allowed to be handled in character.

This used to be the case at one point, but as times gone on our rule list has grown, and at the same time our ability to generate interesting RP situations,and just a generally interesting atmosphere has shrunk.

With more rules, comes less freedom, with less freedom, comes less creativity, with less creativity comes stagnation.
(Aug 29, 2017, 07:59 AM)BlackDog Wrote: [ -> ]11pm Posting:

To be blunt, i do feel far more situations need to be allowed to be handled in character.
> Feels more situations should be handled in-character
> Takes entire clan war to OOC

ForceGhost

(Aug 29, 2017, 03:49 AM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ]Ask a staff member like the rest of the players do. Again, we can't define every grey area to explain to every staff member to get on the exact, same, page. If you want to do something iffy just ask before you do it. At the end, you're responsible for your actions. Go by this key piece of information, "If it feels like it will get me in trouble, I probably shouldn't do it."

This still doesn't solve the issue Soviet.

Because every staff member you ask gives you a different answer.
(Aug 29, 2017, 08:16 AM)Welker Wrote: [ -> ]
(Aug 29, 2017, 07:59 AM)BlackDog Wrote: [ -> ]11pm Posting:

To be blunt, i do feel far more situations need to be allowed to be handled in character.
> Feels more situations should be handled in-character
> Takes entire clan war to OOC

This is a discussion thread, so please stay relevant to the discussion, rather than taking your personal feelings about a predicament that is well behind everyone else and turning it into an ad hominem. Thank you.
Send in an @ call before you go through with it to ask the staff who are actively responding to calls what they'd think about it. As Enzyme said, reaching a general consensus in regards to the rules with a very large team is close to impossible.
(Aug 29, 2017, 11:24 AM)Toxic Wrote: [ -> ]
(Aug 29, 2017, 08:16 AM)Welker Wrote: [ -> ]
(Aug 29, 2017, 07:59 AM)BlackDog Wrote: [ -> ]11pm Posting:

To be blunt, i do feel far more situations need to be allowed to be handled in character.
> Feels more situations should be handled in-character
> Takes entire clan war to OOC

This is a discussion thread, so please stay relevant to the discussion, rather than taking your personal feelings about a predicament that is well behind everyone else and turning it into an ad hominem. Thank you.
This is a discussion thread, and I am doing just that. Just perhaps I'm discussing something you don't like, is an administrator forcing the hand of others via OOC not related to staff members punishing/hindering roleplay? Last time I checked, clan wars are roleplay. Thank you

ForceGhost

(Aug 29, 2017, 11:28 AM)Nightmare Wrote: [ -> ]Send in an @ call before you go through with it to ask the staff who are actively responding to calls what they'd think about it. As Enzyme said, reaching a general consensus in regards to the rules with a very large team is close to impossible.

According to  I should report staff members enforcing rules that aren't listed (Such as the grace period prior to enforcing a new law) to the HR team. Which one is it? Should I report them or go along with what they say?
I'd report them. Endorcing rules not listed without a backup to their claim (Ex. Saying it falls under FailRP, NLR, etc) isn't what we are here to do and just ruins your time.
(Aug 29, 2017, 11:38 AM)Welker Wrote: [ -> ]
(Aug 29, 2017, 11:24 AM)Toxic Wrote: [ -> ]
(Aug 29, 2017, 08:16 AM)Welker Wrote: [ -> ]
(Aug 29, 2017, 07:59 AM)BlackDog Wrote: [ -> ]11pm Posting:

To be blunt, i do feel far more situations need to be allowed to be handled in character.
> Feels more situations should be handled in-character
> Takes entire clan war to OOC

This is a discussion thread, so please stay relevant to the discussion, rather than taking your personal feelings about a predicament that is well behind everyone else and turning it into an ad hominem. Thank you.
This is a discussion thread, and I am doing just that. Just perhaps I'm discussing something you don't like, is an administrator forcing the hand of others via OOC not related to staff members punishing/hindering roleplay? Last time I checked, clan wars are roleplay. Thank you

Sadly, that topic can be brought up here but you must do it in a better manner. Using memes and making a staff member look bad isn't the way to go about doing it and can lead to your possible loss of access on these services.
(Aug 29, 2017, 10:58 AM)ForceGhost Wrote: [ -> ]
(Aug 29, 2017, 03:49 AM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ]Ask a staff member like the rest of the players do. Again, we can't define every grey area to explain to every staff member to get on the exact, same, page. If you want to do something iffy just ask before you do it. At the end, you're responsible for your actions. Go by this key piece of information, "If it feels like it will get me in trouble, I probably shouldn't do it."

This still doesn't solve the issue Soviet.

Because every staff member you ask gives you a different answer.

Then go with their answer. You'll find for the more common grey areas that most staff members have the same opinion. If someone has an odd one, ask why. People have been doing this for a whil, I fail to see how this is a problem now.
tbh the "grace period" is something i've never heard of until now, but it should be a rule quite honestly. Imagine you've spent an hour working on fortifying your home, only for the president to outlaw blocked windows. Of course, after all that work you would want to take 5 minutes to save the dupe but alas, the fuzz rolls up and locks your sorry ass in jail for breaking a law that has been around less time than hamsters live.
(Aug 29, 2017, 06:41 AM)Hungames Wrote: [ -> ]
(Aug 29, 2017, 03:49 AM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ]"If it feels like it will get me in trouble, I probably shouldn't do it."

I feel like i am doing good stuff and not bad stuff but i still get in trouble cause the admin says i have to "go back to fearRP" after i already broke it by removing line of sight.

i follow written rules, they make up some bullshit

Can you explain this situation in detail?
I can imagine someone saying something about a grace period for fairness sake. For example, if weapons are legal one moment, and become illegal because a president makes a new law, it would be unfair for cops to instantly go inside a gun store and arrest the gun dealer without giving him a few minutes to abide by the law and close the store. (IRL laws come into effect a while after they are announced not just appear out of thin air one day and come into effect immediately)
Then we should be clarifying that is a rule. I wouldn't consider it being enforced, but if we are going to say that, we need to make it known.
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