(Mar 19, 2017, 05:20 PM)alan245 Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 05:12 PM)Apex Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 05:05 PM)alan245 Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 03:03 PM)Apex Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 02:55 PM)alan245 Wrote: [ -> ]The reason of adding a ranking system is simple,supervising daily work of police officer.Citizen have the right to call in supervisor if they wish to.Think of if you are the only supervisory officer(Which refers to sgt. or higher) you will busy in going to different call out at the same time which make your job messy.An other reason is that,if you are dead in a large scale of incident or raid,the police will went out of control just like the terrorist did.Then the Highest rank officer on site can take over the situation and continuous instead of going out of control and being eliminated.
Okay, but surely that exact system could work with the three tier model.
a six tier will be much more better.
Captain
Lieutenant
Sergeant
Corporal
Senior officer
Police Officer
Why?It is because you as the Captain you'd like to keep work away from you and get salary by seating in your office,so the Sgt. and Lt. will do the request for you.If the suspect didn't satisfy the explanation given by Sgt. he still have the right to supervisor which will be Lt. Next then the highest - Captain.
All these can enchant policeRP because that how our police force are currently but with more complicated structure.Why?They want to get the officer who have a lot of idea within the police department and strategies in raids so to make police department great.Although this is a guild,you should not put what you think in it and limit others roleplay,you are here to give advice but not telling him what to do and what not to do.
When you get on the busy days as Sgt. you will understand why you need a ranking system and what for.You will learn by time.
I've been on as Sgt during the busy days. It's really not a massive task. Just assign two people who have clear understand of the role and can be responsible and assign them the rank of Corporal. Give them tasks as they come in and handle it so forth.
Also it's unlikely you will ever have more than 6 officers, even during the busy days so having a six tier system just makes things overly complicated and as previously stated dilutes the rank structure. Realistically you should be reinforcing independence with officers to handle their own cases and manage their own duties; only stepping in when it becomes an issue or there are unusual circumstances.
And no Captain could just shift work and get away with it. They have clear and set responsibilities they have to meet; if they don't meet those they get made either redundant or fired.
No matter what you think about the ranking system.It is all personal prefernce you shouldn't say
Quote:"It has also been noted in another guide that Police tend to assign themselves ranks such as "Captain". This is silly and please don't do it. "
This only limit their thinking just like China did,don't be selfish and allow others to make a decision on having a ranking system or not,just don't limit others.
I am not saying people cannot do this, I am not saying that doing this is impossible. I am recommending, from experience and training that the way I have aforementioned is the proven most effective strategy. The guide is an opinion and nothing more; take it or leave it but it still exists.
(Mar 17, 2017, 03:32 PM)Apex Wrote: [ -> ]It has also been noted in another guide that Police tend to assign themselves ranks such as "Captain". This is silly and please don't do it.
Ouch. Due to the fact this quote hit me right in the feels, I wasn't able to read your guide any further. Thanks for your input to improve LE roleplay, though.
(Mar 19, 2017, 05:28 PM)Apex Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 05:20 PM)alan245 Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 05:12 PM)Apex Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 05:05 PM)alan245 Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 03:03 PM)Apex Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, but surely that exact system could work with the three tier model.
a six tier will be much more better.
Captain
Lieutenant
Sergeant
Corporal
Senior officer
Police Officer
Why?It is because you as the Captain you'd like to keep work away from you and get salary by seating in your office,so the Sgt. and Lt. will do the request for you.If the suspect didn't satisfy the explanation given by Sgt. he still have the right to supervisor which will be Lt. Next then the highest - Captain.
All these can enchant policeRP because that how our police force are currently but with more complicated structure.Why?They want to get the officer who have a lot of idea within the police department and strategies in raids so to make police department great.Although this is a guild,you should not put what you think in it and limit others roleplay,you are here to give advice but not telling him what to do and what not to do.
When you get on the busy days as Sgt. you will understand why you need a ranking system and what for.You will learn by time.
I've been on as Sgt during the busy days. It's really not a massive task. Just assign two people who have clear understand of the role and can be responsible and assign them the rank of Corporal. Give them tasks as they come in and handle it so forth.
Also it's unlikely you will ever have more than 6 officers, even during the busy days so having a six tier system just makes things overly complicated and as previously stated dilutes the rank structure. Realistically you should be reinforcing independence with officers to handle their own cases and manage their own duties; only stepping in when it becomes an issue or there are unusual circumstances.
And no Captain could just shift work and get away with it. They have clear and set responsibilities they have to meet; if they don't meet those they get made either redundant or fired.
No matter what you think about the ranking system.It is all personal prefernce you shouldn't say
Quote:"It has also been noted in another guide that Police tend to assign themselves ranks such as "Captain". This is silly and please don't do it. "
This only limit their thinking just like China did,don't be selfish and allow others to make a decision on having a ranking system or not,just don't limit others.
I am not saying people cannot do this, I am not saying that doing this is impossible. I am recommending, from experience and training that the way I have aforementioned is the proven most effective strategy. The guide is an opinion and nothing more; take it or leave it but it still exists.
Then you may wish to word it differently than "silly". Maybe use inefficient instead as calling it silly sounds more insulting to players that do that.
(Mar 20, 2017, 02:25 AM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 05:28 PM)Apex Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 05:20 PM)alan245 Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 05:12 PM)Apex Wrote: [ -> ] (Mar 19, 2017, 05:05 PM)alan245 Wrote: [ -> ]a six tier will be much more better.
Captain
Lieutenant
Sergeant
Corporal
Senior officer
Police Officer
Why?It is because you as the Captain you'd like to keep work away from you and get salary by seating in your office,so the Sgt. and Lt. will do the request for you.If the suspect didn't satisfy the explanation given by Sgt. he still have the right to supervisor which will be Lt. Next then the highest - Captain.
All these can enchant policeRP because that how our police force are currently but with more complicated structure.Why?They want to get the officer who have a lot of idea within the police department and strategies in raids so to make police department great.Although this is a guild,you should not put what you think in it and limit others roleplay,you are here to give advice but not telling him what to do and what not to do.
When you get on the busy days as Sgt. you will understand why you need a ranking system and what for.You will learn by time.
I've been on as Sgt during the busy days. It's really not a massive task. Just assign two people who have clear understand of the role and can be responsible and assign them the rank of Corporal. Give them tasks as they come in and handle it so forth.
Also it's unlikely you will ever have more than 6 officers, even during the busy days so having a six tier system just makes things overly complicated and as previously stated dilutes the rank structure. Realistically you should be reinforcing independence with officers to handle their own cases and manage their own duties; only stepping in when it becomes an issue or there are unusual circumstances.
And no Captain could just shift work and get away with it. They have clear and set responsibilities they have to meet; if they don't meet those they get made either redundant or fired.
No matter what you think about the ranking system.It is all personal prefernce you shouldn't say
Quote:"It has also been noted in another guide that Police tend to assign themselves ranks such as "Captain". This is silly and please don't do it. "
This only limit their thinking just like China did,don't be selfish and allow others to make a decision on having a ranking system or not,just don't limit others.
I am not saying people cannot do this, I am not saying that doing this is impossible. I am recommending, from experience and training that the way I have aforementioned is the proven most effective strategy. The guide is an opinion and nothing more; take it or leave it but it still exists.
Then you may wish to word it differently than "silly". Maybe use inefficient instead as calling it silly sounds more insulting to players that do that.
I used the word "Silly" more as a semi joke / advice. But I will alter the guide as you have suggested.