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(Feb 4, 2017, 07:10 AM)monk Wrote: [ -> ]From there our deputy left us to join the police force and we decided to conduct a sting operation and bust someone for purchasing an illegal machine gun that did not meet ATF and 922® noncompliance.  Faustin pm'd our guy as I was getting ready to pm him that we were coming to get him. Seeing that he was the police sergeant we decided that it would be interesting nabbing a 'city-slicker' cop for breaking the law. So we moved in and began to attempt to stop them from ruining our operation.

Well your "Deputy" was in fact my partner at the time and a lead role in the raid, and also no laws in game were set stating the purchase of firearms was illegal, hence your sting operating would be pointless

I myself discussed the purchase of these weapons as part of an actual sting operation in order to bring the dealers to justice, and such was done so.

If by "attempt to stop them" you mean wave fully automatic firearms in SWAT officers faces which resulted in on of your colleagues near-death, then sure.

Yes, as I stated he changed to police officer. It was against the County Ordinance at the time the sting operation was underway, County law most always recognizes federal laws, including ATF rulings. Yes you did, in other words you decided to disrupt our RP and take the glory of the sting operation for yourself by purposefully performing a sting operation on an obvious sting operation. I'll have you know only one of us had a fully automatic firearm. And it did result in one of our deaths. Do cops themselves not wave weapons in people's faces as they're detaining them? Should we have calmly walked up so they could tase us and then arrest us both for 15 minutes on frivolous charges?

I had a 'hostage' (as they called it, in reality they were being detained). Following this, they slapped Memeimrich with 15 minutes for a ridiculous 'accessory to murder' charge, despite no attempted murder occurring since we were RPing as police officers.

And how do you detain a SWAT Officer exactly? Especially one that is armed?

Typically by holding them at gunpoint and demanding their surrender. Is that to say that SWAT Officers, especially armed ones, are exempt from the law?

They did not break any laws.

Eh. Illegal raid, murder of an off-duty officer- actually I already listed everything we were placing them under arrest for if you'd care to look at those.

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We did nothing wrong because we were within our jurisdiction and currently being recognized by the government. Why would you raid what is clearly a sting op with your own reverse sting op?) decided they wanted to ruin our RP with their aggressive 'shoot first, ask questions later'-style police 'RP'.

There was no President or Vice President during the time of raid, meaning that I, the police Sergeant at the time, was the highest ranking government official. This means I ordered the raid and I did not recognised your organization as a government force, neither did any of the other SWAT/Police Officers, I believe.

Yes and at the time of the raid the sting operation was about to be shut down for that exact reason and because nobody was taking the bait. How would you have known it was us performing the sting? Maybe you should've called us beforehand to coordinate and make sure.

Yeah good idea, "hey, uh we're about to raid you, just checking you don't happen to be a government agency doing a sting do you?"

Ah yes, the classic "criminals doing a sting operation" bit. Classic one that is.

Why would you run a sting op with no President in place to authorise it? Oh and as for the "shoot first ask questions later" aheeheeheee, welcome to America.

It was authorized at the time it was being conducted up until there was no president and you decided to raid it. So in other words, you're supporting your police force killing instead of detaining? So are you implying that our RP police force was more qualified than yours?

I'm supporting my police killing those who wave guns in other cops faces, yes.

Huh, thought you had a hard-on for gun control.

When Memeimrich presented his government workers pass which was valid during the sting but not during our arrest seeing as when they raided the sting. Either Auston or Stomm

In my eyes, and the government force's eyes, his ID expired as soon as the President left office, hence why we raided.

So in your eyes you saw a great opportunity to disrupt our RP with your aggressive RP?

In my eyes I saw an opportunity to bust some crooks.

You saw an opportunity to go disrupt RP.

It was neither Auston or Stomm that decided your ID's to be invalid, it was actually me that can be provided by logs when I PM'd Auston.

Did one of them not say it? I'm fairly certain they did, even if they were not the original one to say it.

Yes, Auston did say it, however this was after I said it.

Gotcha. I wasn't really looking at text chat and if you said it over voice then it was drowned out by Stomm and Auston's screaming.

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5. The president changed more or less when they raided us with no indication that we were no longer valid and were to be treated as criminals as far as I am aware. We still had passes, and we were in the middle of a major operation which had begun under a president that recognized us.
The President left about 5 minutes before the raid as said President would not let us raid. However once he left I gave the go-ahead.

Dude. So you just sat there after being told you weren't allowed to raid us and waited until you could? Do you just have a hard-on for disrupting RP? And clearly if he didn't allow you to raid us we were being recognized up until the point you decided to raid us when he left.

Let me explain he did not state any reasons for us to not raid, I asked if selling guns was legal, he said yes. Hence we did not raid. However once he left there was nothing stopping us. And finally I do not have a hard-on for disrupting RP I live in the UK I have a hard-on for gun control, bit like the mayor of New York.

So in other words your hard-on for gun control led to your disruption of RP. Does being the highest ranking LEO mean you can just make laws up on the spot? I never saw any announcement declaring the sale of weapons illegal, meaning your raid was just as pointless as our sting supposedly was.

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Red: Quotes
Bold: Faustin's First Response
Green: Monk's Defence
Light Blue: Faustin's Second Response
Pink: Monk's Second Response


At work, quick response. 
SWAT got called in to assist with a raid, when we show up, we see an unknown man threatening a cop. We would be 100% justified to blow his head off right then. Instead, we gave him a chance to surrender, which was ignored. 

Also, I never heard you identify yourself as FBI, and we were not going to take a criminals word without proof.

What if my turning around was me trying to surrender? Dude you probably didn't hear because you and Auston were too busy screaming at the people you were already told would be there. And I died and was a completely different character, so labeling me by default as a criminal is ridiculous; I could have been a completely different player and you wouldn't have known because you were too busy wanting to kill everyone you meet.

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Monk, I'm not reading that. You've convoluted it with numerous minor, pointless details to the point where it's essentially unreadable. The fact of the matter is that you and meme, while roleplaying as "FBI" and "Deputy",  instead of communicating with what would be considered other members  of government, drew them into a shootout which ultimately seems to be what your end goal was. You've confessed in your own UBR to violating NLR and at the same time violating rule 1.12 by changing your job and IC name to say "NLR doesn't apply now." 

"Realizing that this was obviously a corrupt police force, following his release and my character change to a more suitable character so as not to break NLR"



You died, changed your job to Citizen, then to FBI once the meeting to punish the guy who killed you was set up. "Looking at your messages in logs saying how you had to go soon, it seems that you were trying to squeeze in a revenge kill on the person that shot you." You weren't trying to properly roleplay as an FBI agent attempting to take down corrupt police officers.

Denied.

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