The staff-members have received your unban-request, Trojan 42.
It will take a while for it to be reviewed.
Please note: I am currently at work and I'm running off of memory. I can fact check tonight when I get settled at home.
I did get a request to remove the vehicle as it was glitching, after seeing it immobile on the street next to Tides, I removed it. I remember getting a warrant request after the shooting, which I accepted assuming the officers had traced down who was sending those request threats.
Now, you did contact me about raiding, which I appreciate. I believe that I told you that a raid is allowed with proper RP background. I heard nothing after that. Insane or not, it is not proper RP to raid because your vehicle is impounded, especially if you didn't even try to negotiate a legal release. Besides the request threats, I didn't see any further communication from you.
Now due to your history of over aggressive behavior towards the government, incorrect job titles and powergaming, it is clear that you get carried away with your gaming.
you dont get to choose your ban length, im rather harsh when people should know better.
Knox has been banned for 20 days on his 9th ban
So, here is the nitty and gritty, a detailed account of what happened. I did skim over a few things to keep this already long event from being even longer.
ok, so before I was president, you helped your friend out. You were both Mechanics and Cookie got arrested. He escaped and you left your job and became an Anarchist to help him escape:
[23:46:34] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) has spawned as Anarchist
[23:49:41] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm Cookie they are looking for you
[23:50:01] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /y they know u broke out
[23:50:05] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: ty
[23:50:12] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /y keep your head down thats all
[23:50:18] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /y they stoppedme cuz of an escaped prisoner
[23:50:22] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: said i was seen leaving jails
[23:50:27] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: so they assumed i had you in the back
[23:50:30] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: just keep your head low man
[23:50:45] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: stay safe man
At this point, I become president.
[23:52:24] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) has spawned as President
Not long afterwards I get the report of the bugged out Transit. At which point I head to it and verify its condition and remove it. You then proceed to respawn it.
[23:53:50] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) @ Requests: Can you remove my car please
[23:54:38] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: .// ty
[23:54:48] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /inventory transit use 1
Now, during this time a search warrant was placed, then once the vehicle was despawned, the RP was resumed:
[23:54:20] TheFakeTaco (STEAM_0:1:93997443) said: /warrant 431 search
[23:54:42] [CSA]Marsh [uni] (STEAM_0:1:41834324) said: alright you can go ahead with whatever you have planed. At the moment we are trying to find an escaped prsioner
When I get back to my office, after doing my admin duties of despawning the vehicle, I notice the warrant and go ahead and accept it, knowing the officers are on an area search. However, shortly afterwards the officer that warranted left the game:
[23:54:50] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) said: /warrant accept
[23:54:51] TheFakeTaco (STEAM_0:1:93997443) Disconnected (Disconnect by user.)
Prisoner was caught, yay
[23:54:59] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) said: /radio Escaped prisoner was caught
You then become a Chop Shop Owner, but don't really do anything with it. Instead you start asking why you were warranted. Since the officer left, I decided to do you a favor and release it. Now, I think you know full well why you were warranted. It seemed fairly obvious as you were actually involved in the prison escape. Your // message about random search warrants was unwarranted:
[23:56:14] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /job Chop shop owner
[23:56:38] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: // the random search warrants man
[23:56:42] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /request why was i warranted.
[23:57:57] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm Zeyon i'm going to keep pestering them until i get one. Can't just warrant me for nothing
[23:58:22] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) said: /unwarrant 431
[23:58:42] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) said: /pm 431 The Officer that made the request has stepped down.
Now, you had sent this message many many times... why was I warranted. You were spamming the /request channel. You had clearly intended to spam the channel just to be annoying. During all this, a /radio message came in:
[23:57:36] IceCube (STEAM_0:0:180714680) used command: radio possible person trying to escape prisoner from prison keep an eye out prison guards
That lead us to believe that an incoming attack was possible.
Later on, a few officers had managed to locate the Transit and did a search in the database, it came up as the suspect vehicle. So, they detained it, which resulted in your death as you were hiding in the back, you died and after a brief .// conversation with Project, you respawn as Anarchist:
[00:09:17] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) said: /policedb
[00:09:28] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) said: /searchplate HARAMBE
[00:09:53] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) said: Follow me behind his car
[00:10:29] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) Knocked down: FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) using models/tdmcars/ford_transit.mdl
[00:11:33] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) has spawned as Anarchist
To which, Project then issued a warrant for impounding the vehicle, then... the car gets bugged again:
[00:11:51] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) used command: warrant fx impound of car.
[00:12:13] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) used command: warrant 431 search
[00:12:36] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) @ Requests: FxProGaming car got bugged again
Now we get to the meat of the issue here. The Raid. Upset over your vehicle, you decide to start using that as a catalyst for raiding solo on the Nexus. Now, you did ask about it first:
[00:15:05] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm Wulf quick question
[00:15:18] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm wulf is terror rp allowed, like can i come in to nexus with my ar 15 and try to attack you
[00:15:34] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) said: /r Not without a good reason. No.
At that point, I don't hear further from you so assumed it was just a question and not an action. Instead, you were fishing for a reason to raid, you already talked to a Gun Dealer and mentioned something big, and were hoping to have something concrete to work with:
[00:12:39] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: You got ammo for an AR 15?
[00:13:00] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: how much my ma
[00:13:05] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) gave OWNAGESRULE (STEAM_0:0:44498628) $3000
[00:13:10] OWNAGESRULE (STEAM_0:0:44498628) manufactured 5 5.56x45mm NATO
[00:13:14] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: img onna do something big
[00:15:37] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) has used 1 5.56x45MM
[00:15:40] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /inventory cw_ar15 use 1
[00:15:58] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /check tax
Now, please note the last few lines. You equipped and loaded your weapon seconds after I said no, not without a good reason. You then check the tax, no doubt to see if it is very high. Which also in itself is not a valid reason to raid. In any case, I believe there was no tax at that time. 0%. Instead of giving up or heeding advice, you start sending threats. Project sent a friendly messaging letting you know that it was despawned, to which you told him off and did not confirm it. There are no logs of you attempting to spawn in a vehicle to verify, instead you continue on with your raid threats:
[00:16:10] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /request pres im coming for you because you stole my van
[00:16:31] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /request im coming for you pres
[00:16:34] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) said: /pm 431 it was removed I believe, it was bugged again
[00:16:45] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm project it got impounded somebody stole it off me
[00:17:08] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm project cant find it so as it was being impounded i'll assume it is
[00:20:13] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /request attack on nexus to avenge my van
And then, you met Project, he died then you Disconnected:
[00:20:32] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) injured: [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) [cw_ar15] [] []
[00:20:33] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) was killed by worldspawn
[00:20:58] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) Disconnected (FxProGaming timed out)
Now, I do show that you tried reconnecting but never did get back on, so I'll chock that up to accidental DC there. However, the logs do confirm that you had intended to raid the Nexus simply because you had assumed that your vehicle was impounded. Assumed. When the impounding Officer informed you otherwise, you told him off and continued with the Raid, leading to the Officer's death. There was no real RP here, you were not being oppressed, you didn't try and get your vehicle back the legal way, it wasn't even really there nor did you try respawning after your death. To which we come to the next point.
You died. You in a sense were taking revenge on a situation that happened in your prior life. You should not have had any clue where your vehicle was and who had it. And, you never verified it. You never did /stolen to report it, ask the government if it was impounded or do anything to indicate that you are a new player that honestly doesn't know where his vehicle is. Which, I might point out... was despawned due to a bug. So, you could have just respawned it on your own and avoid this entire thing.
As such, I feel that you were just looking for an excuse to go on a killing spree with the government, and based on your prior history of doing just that... your ban was founded.
Thank you SirWulf.
Now the ban was valid we wont be discussing this further.
However you may make ONE post and one post only explaining why your ban should be shortened. you will not give a time frame for this, and you will not compare to other cases. i want to know why your actions and previous history warrant a smaller ban
(Sep 7, 2016, 06:38 AM)SirWulf Wrote: [ -> ]So, here is the nitty and gritty, a detailed account of what happened. I did skim over a few things to keep this already long event from being even longer.
ok, so before I was president, you helped your friend out. You were both Mechanics and Cookie got arrested. He escaped and you left your job and became an Anarchist to help him escape:
[23:46:34] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) has spawned as Anarchist
[23:49:41] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm Cookie they are looking for you
[23:50:01] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /y they know u broke out
[23:50:05] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: ty
[23:50:12] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /y keep your head down thats all
[23:50:18] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /y they stoppedme cuz of an escaped prisoner
[23:50:22] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: said i was seen leaving jails
[23:50:27] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: so they assumed i had you in the back
[23:50:30] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: just keep your head low man
[23:50:45] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: stay safe man
At this point, I become president.
[23:52:24] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) has spawned as President
Not long afterwards I get the report of the bugged out Transit. At which point I head to it and verify its condition and remove it. You then proceed to respawn it.
[23:53:50] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) @ Requests: Can you remove my car please
[23:54:38] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: .// ty
[23:54:48] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /inventory transit use 1
Now, during this time a search warrant was placed, then once the vehicle was despawned, the RP was resumed:
[23:54:20] TheFakeTaco (STEAM_0:1:93997443) said: /warrant 431 search
[23:54:42] [CSA]Marsh [uni] (STEAM_0:1:41834324) said: alright you can go ahead with whatever you have planed. At the moment we are trying to find an escaped prsioner
When I get back to my office, after doing my admin duties of despawning the vehicle, I notice the warrant and go ahead and accept it, knowing the officers are on an area search. However, shortly afterwards the officer that warranted left the game:
[23:54:50] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) said: /warrant accept
[23:54:51] TheFakeTaco (STEAM_0:1:93997443) Disconnected (Disconnect by user.)
Prisoner was caught, yay
[23:54:59] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) said: /radio Escaped prisoner was caught
You then become a Chop Shop Owner, but don't really do anything with it. Instead you start asking why you were warranted. Since the officer left, I decided to do you a favor and release it. Now, I think you know full well why you were warranted. It seemed fairly obvious as you were actually involved in the prison escape. Your // message about random search warrants was unwarranted:
[23:56:14] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /job Chop shop owner
[23:56:38] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: // the random search warrants man
[23:56:42] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /request why was i warranted.
[23:57:57] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm Zeyon i'm going to keep pestering them until i get one. Can't just warrant me for nothing
[23:58:22] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) said: /unwarrant 431
[23:58:42] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) said: /pm 431 The Officer that made the request has stepped down.
Now, you had sent this message many many times... why was I warranted. You were spamming the /request channel. You had clearly intended to spam the channel just to be annoying. During all this, a /radio message came in:
[23:57:36] IceCube (STEAM_0:0:180714680) used command: radio possible person trying to escape prisoner from prison keep an eye out prison guards
That lead us to believe that an incoming attack was possible.
Later on, a few officers had managed to locate the Transit and did a search in the database, it came up as the suspect vehicle. So, they detained it, which resulted in your death as you were hiding in the back, you died and after a brief .// conversation with Project, you respawn as Anarchist:
[00:09:17] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) said: /policedb
[00:09:28] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) said: /searchplate HARAMBE
[00:09:53] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) said: Follow me behind his car
[00:10:29] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) Knocked down: FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) using models/tdmcars/ford_transit.mdl
[00:11:33] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) has spawned as Anarchist
To which, Project then issued a warrant for impounding the vehicle, then... the car gets bugged again:
[00:11:51] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) used command: warrant fx impound of car.
[00:12:13] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) used command: warrant 431 search
[00:12:36] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) @ Requests: FxProGaming car got bugged again
Now we get to the meat of the issue here. The Raid. Upset over your vehicle, you decide to start using that as a catalyst for raiding solo on the Nexus. Now, you did ask about it first:
[00:15:05] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm Wulf quick question
[00:15:18] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm wulf is terror rp allowed, like can i come in to nexus with my ar 15 and try to attack you
[00:15:34] [L²:M] SirWulf (STEAM_0:1:5102768) said: /r Not without a good reason. No.
At that point, I don't hear further from you so assumed it was just a question and not an action. Instead, you were fishing for a reason to raid, you already talked to a Gun Dealer and mentioned something big, and were hoping to have something concrete to work with:
[00:12:39] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: You got ammo for an AR 15?
[00:13:00] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: how much my ma
[00:13:05] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) gave OWNAGESRULE (STEAM_0:0:44498628) $3000
[00:13:10] OWNAGESRULE (STEAM_0:0:44498628) manufactured 5 5.56x45mm NATO
[00:13:14] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: img onna do something big
[00:15:37] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) has used 1 5.56x45MM
[00:15:40] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /inventory cw_ar15 use 1
[00:15:58] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /check tax
Now, please note the last few lines. You equipped and loaded your weapon seconds after I said no, not without a good reason. You then check the tax, no doubt to see if it is very high. Which also in itself is not a valid reason to raid. In any case, I believe there was no tax at that time. 0%. Instead of giving up or heeding advice, you start sending threats. Project sent a friendly messaging letting you know that it was despawned, to which you told him off and did not confirm it. There are no logs of you attempting to spawn in a vehicle to verify, instead you continue on with your raid threats:
[00:16:10] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /request pres im coming for you because you stole my van
[00:16:31] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /request im coming for you pres
[00:16:34] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) said: /pm 431 it was removed I believe, it was bugged again
[00:16:45] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm project it got impounded somebody stole it off me
[00:17:08] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /pm project cant find it so as it was being impounded i'll assume it is
[00:20:13] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) said: /request attack on nexus to avenge my van
And then, you met Project, he died then you Disconnected:
[00:20:32] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) injured: [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) [cw_ar15] [] []
[00:20:33] [L²:RP] Project (STEAM_0:0:49197760) was killed by worldspawn
[00:20:58] FxProGaming (STEAM_0:1:76141978) Disconnected (FxProGaming timed out)
Now, I do show that you tried reconnecting but never did get back on, so I'll chock that up to accidental DC there. However, the logs do confirm that you had intended to raid the Nexus simply because you had assumed that your vehicle was impounded. Assumed. When the impounding Officer informed you otherwise, you told him off and continued with the Raid, leading to the Officer's death. There was no real RP here, you were not being oppressed, you didn't try and get your vehicle back the legal way, it wasn't even really there nor did you try respawning after your death. To which we come to the next point.
You died. You in a sense were taking revenge on a situation that happened in your prior life. You should not have had any clue where your vehicle was and who had it. And, you never verified it. You never did /stolen to report it, ask the government if it was impounded or do anything to indicate that you are a new player that honestly doesn't know where his vehicle is. Which, I might point out... was despawned due to a bug. So, you could have just respawned it on your own and avoid this entire thing.
As such, I feel that you were just looking for an excuse to go on a killing spree with the government, and based on your prior history of doing just that... your ban was founded.
Just a side note, i couldn't rejoin because i was banned. None of my history states that i use excuses to go on killing sprees so i don't know what you are insinuating with that comment, but your input it valid and appreciated non the less.
Thank you for your contribution *NOTE: EXTRA/FINAL MESSAGE ON NEXT PAGE*
(Sep 7, 2016, 12:12 PM)Barkles Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you SirWulf.
Now the ban was valid we wont be discussing this further.
However you may make ONE post and one post only explaining why your ban should be shortened. you will not give a time frame for this, and you will not compare to other cases. i want to know why your actions and previous history warrant a smaller ban
Okay so, i accept my history doesn't help my case considering the range of offences committed by myself.
For you my previous ban history is just text on a screen so its open to interpretation and people make false assumptions without knowing the story behind it. I love limelight, and no that isnt me kissing your feet and begging you to let me back, it's generally true i do love the updates and limitless stuff i can do, I like being a cop and i like playing criminal but more recently my style has come upon mechanic RP so i sold all my cards and everything i could possibly get within my inventory and spent hours logging the trees by the lake to be able to get 90k to afford the transit van, with this transit van i used skin 7 which makes it an AA van which in the UK the AA is a breakdown service so i decided i'll roll with it. So i was cruising around and i did an advert about my services and got a pm from a guy called funnycookie, now he had setup a mechanic mod shop at the connectivity road warehouse and he continues to do that to this day, we partnered up and we started some great rp with machines that lift the vehicles up and we do some /me rp. If you ask anyone on the server i'll bet they have used our business at some point which proves our value on the server. I also have some reps for my work as president during a terror crisis and a general rep which i believe was taken off me by blackdog because of an insult in OOC.
You can read all the written reports about me, but you'll never know what i'm like and how i roleplay and how much i contribute/like this server.
Make your assumptions and make your choices but at the end of the day i bring some quality rp to this server and i deserve a second and final chance.
Trojan was one of the people that I liked to RP with on Limelight, he is a good roleplayer and he dedicates to the server, he commits to RPs and helping people around, I do belive that his ban time should be decreased.
BTW DisabledRP FTW. SirWulf can check that RP, I even got him a wheelchair :p
ok then your ban will be reduced so you are unbanned for october 17th
This will be on the condition that any more punishments and it'll be a strait perm ban, that includes blacklists and warnings and I'll make a note in your file saying this.
You may think I'm harsh but believe me I'm being very fair considering your history
Do you accept?
NBarklesok then your ban will be reduced so you are unbanned for october 17th
This will be on the condition that any more punishments and it'll be a strait perm ban, that includes blacklists and warnings and I'll make a note in your file saying this.
You may think I'm harsh but believe me I'm being very fair considering your history
Do you accept?
Accepted, thank you for your time.