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Name of Player: Carfano

SteamID: STEAM_0:1:78580562

Server: V4B1

Time: (In UTC+0) 30 minutes ago.

Summary: Received a /request that there was allegedly people in the Industrial area breaking into vehicles at MTL. I respond immediately but take a quick scan around the area of Industrial first before responding directly to MTL. I head to the back of Industrial and see a vehicle parked in an alley and so I patrol down the alley towards the other end and as I stop before turning, an individual whom came out of the warehouse pulled a pistol and began firing on my vehicle before jumping back inside and closing the doors. As I jumped out, you can hear them equipping more ammunition. This incident is blatant baiting. When Mathias brought us all together their defense involved two different claims:

1st Claim - Carfano stated, "I shot in the air didn't thought I shot you"

Video shown below can clearly show Carfano jumping out with his pistol and shooting it at the direction of my vehicle and hitting me. When confronted about this he stated, "I didn't mean to". He then went and said, "I meant to shoot by his side of his vehicle to scare him away so we could flee away so he would not arrest us two cuz I thought u were the one chasing us before." The question arises then... why did he shoot me at all? Did I provoke them to feel threatened? This falls into the second claim he made after the staff situation progressed.

2nd Claim - "I did not want to bait cops we had plans actually... Doing a chop shop, planned to build here."

The second claim goes off on a tangent from the 1st claim where he A) Wanted to scare me off and B) Thought I was a cop that was pursuing them long before. This third one goes off and revolves around them being car thieves setting up a chop shop here at this location. Keyword being setting up. There was no props and they likely had just purchased the doors as I was rolling up. They hadn't done anything illegal to even bring concern. No stolen vehicles, no weapons visible and nothing to make me bat an eye at them, that is of course until he decided to shoot at me to apparently scare me away. I quote him here in his response to Mathias, "Yeah someone chased us, a cop, so I was scarying the cop away and woops I by accident shot his car... then we tried to flee." The issue I have with this statement was that A) Being in a pursuit doesn't give you the right to shoot on sight any police officers, especially when the event happened long before I arrived. B) Shooting a police officer isn't the proper way to handle a situation where you don't want to get caught and C) They never tried to flee. They re-entered their property to equip up.

Evidence: Video - Demo
Excuse the error signs, for some reason they only show up in demo recordings. Snippets are muted because of private conversation IRL.

You have cut the video where you shoot me whilst I was unarmed and also we tried to flee the backdoor , but then you waited outside and when we opened and stepped out I got killed by you (by this time I was amed, but not when I opened the first door where you shot me whilst I was unarmed, I only opened a door.) We had plans to actually build a Chop Shop there, and yes we had just bought the doors about 30 seconds before you rolled up. Me and my friend (Auroras) had the following job names as "Car Thief". And yes, indeed I was trying to scare you off Nev, as I thought you where the cop following us about 5 minutes before all of this happen, but I by accident shot at your car and you lost 20HP as seen in the video. Accidents happen, you have to live with that. I/We was not trying to "bait" in any sort of way. That's stupid and mingy, why would I or we do that? Just because YOU THINK so?. Anyways the only thing I think I did bad was that I was a stupid criminal who made a bad mistake/choice within my character's life (IC) and not being a rulebreaker (OOC). Every player has their character,a dn their own background, and their own "life decisions" And this was my decision. // Carfano

But how does the one and only shot hit Nev? If it was warning shot, why not shoot around the target?

Nev's shooting can be justified as he was in the middle of a firefight and you were right next to armed suspects.

If recalls anything, may they post it here?

From my perspective it appears to be Carfano baiting the cops, to get some action.

As also discussed in the admin sit, I don't see why there is any need to shoot a cop that's already driving away, to make him drive away.

Approved

Closing Notes: Evidence shows clear violation of engagement rules, or FailRP in this case along with Baiting.

Player will be given a 6 Hour Weapon's Blacklist.