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What are your thoughts about this kill. Please remember this is a serious discussion. I want to know what the uneducated of hunting think about this video. Also, just so we're clear, the arrow doesn't have a toxin or poison on it. Toxic is the brand name. This is the arrow they are talking about.

**WARNING, FUCKING BLOOD AND DEATH**

Damn.

My first uneducated thought would be that the death looked pretty painful and definitely
was not instantaneous.

I've nothing against hunting, but respect is one thing that matters a lot to me, and I do
feel that we as humans are obligated to respect the creatures we make our fair game in
the field. As for whether this instance was 'respectful' to this moose in question, I have
little to no idea as I'm not really sure the details.

I honestly think that hunting for "fun" shouldn't be allowed because you are killing another animal for fun. I would understand hunting for food but just hunting for fun I don't think it should be allowed.

(Jun 16, 2016, 09:00 PM)Dig Wrote: [ -> ]My first uneducated thought would be that the death looked pretty painful and definitely
was not instantaneous.

Death in hunting is almost never instant, especially with a bow. This video shows an near perfect lung shot. It looks painful because a collapsing lung probably doesn't feel good. But for a moose, and 1 arrow, a less than 10 second death is an amazing kill.

I am against hunting as sport and only for it if it is a means of acquiring food to survive.

In the case of this video, it seems as though they are simply killing this aged Moose with the intention of garnishing views on their YouTube channel and in the process, using a specific type of arrow that inflicts substantially more pain and suffering to the animal once it is struck. As you can see, they impacted the animal in an area where its vital organs are located, causing extreme internal bleeding and blood to come spewing from the animals mouth while it stood there until it fell. Is this humane? Certainly not. 

I'm quite educated on hunting. My family is from Texas and out in Texas you own a gun. When you own a gun, you shoot things. My family owns a 5,000 acre ranch in Colorado where there are plenty of game to kill. I've had a close family member even go out to Africa and kill a Lion. I don't support hunting for sport to showcase the kill on a mantel or simply to skin it, but if you are going to kill it for food then make it quick and painless. Scoped rifle, bullet to the head. If you want to kill for sport, why don't you be fair and challenge the animal on equal terms? Is there something fun in killing an animal with a modern Bow or rifle? It's pathetic. There is no skill involved except waiting and luring the animal towards you. I guarantee the art of hunting would be less popular if people were at risk. My family member who killed a Lion with a sniper stood over the kill as if she was proud to have taken the life of a beautiful creature and that it was some sort of feat that she accomplished. The true sport would be if she was only armed with a blade to kill that creature, only then would it be fair. She'd also probably be dead, which in my opinion wouldn't be all that sad. 

All in all, from the video you showed I don't believe that was a clean kill. Considering the close proximity of the animal, the fact that they used a Moose Call to lure the creature to them in a passive state and also the fact that they used an extremely accurate bow and a new arrow design that caused deeper penetration and damage into the body only goes to show that this was not truly an honorable kill.

Yeah, for me I personally feel that if you're going to hunt, make sure there's a valid reason for it. Don't hunt to show off how good you are at killing stuff.
Trophy Hunters are the worst in my opinion: look at me, I take away life for fun lolz.

It's sad that animals, such as Pheasants, are born to die, but generally hunters take them home and make a dinner outta it.

But I don't agree in killing for sport - and if you do, then disable the animal and then put it out of its misery. Bullet/Arrow to the heart/brain.
People can't talk all high and mighty about being against Halal food (where the animal is bled to death) if they find the above acceptable in any way. That moose wasn't suffering before a human made it so.

Jesus, the moose looked like he just went down on his girl while she was on her period.

OT: Hunting for fun is dead imo, Pun NOT intended.

I've seen that video before and it surprised me. I hunt myself and I've shot and killed two moose(s?) and even with a .308 it takes time for them to go down due to the adrenaline flowing through their body. I've had to shoot twice, even when the rounds hit where they are meant to and that arrow did a very good job in stopping and killing the animal. It looks brutal but that Moose died very fast and pretty painless compared to being shot with a rifle. It went straight into shock and died pretty fast. When yoqu shoot a moose with a rifle, the animal often walks/runs away before finding a place to rest and bleed out and you usually wait for 30 minutes before tracking the animal, but there was no need for that in this video.


I think that hunting big game with a bow causes for unessesary pain and suffering, but that arrow proved that it can be done properly. Might have been a very lucky shot but it performed flawlessly in this situation.

I hunt for the meat and for keeping the moose population in check so the population doesn't grow too big and so the "cubs" doesn't starve to death, but hunting just to kill something is disgusting and egotistical. I'm not interested in getting a big set of moose-antlers, I'm interested in doing the job properly and ensure there is as little suffering as possible. I care a lot about animals so it was difficult for me to start hunting so I only hunt on my terms where I decide when to shoot or not. Some people don't worry about wounding an animal and not being able to finish it off, but it's my biggest nightmare.

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I don't hunt; I've never had the reason nor the drive to kill animals for food or for sport. No reason to go hunting for my next meal and I think hunting for sport is above all pointless.