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Your Name: What is your name? James Hellfire

Issued by: Who was the staff member that blacklisted you? Please insert the staff tags too. [font='Lucida Sans Unicode', 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif][L²] Safira[/font]

Blacklist ID: What is your Blacklist ID? [font='Lucida Sans Unicode', 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif]66300[/font]

Server: Which server did it happen on? v33x

Why should you be unblacklisted?: Why do you think you deserve/should be unbanned? I believe that I should not be unblacklisted, but instead have this blacklist shortened, because an 18 hour blacklist against weapons, for only one account of suspected 'RDM' seems a bit harsh, especially when people with a greater amount of hours then myself receive less time for the same offence. In the PR, you said this was because we were 'experienced members', or something of the sort, when in fact, I am anything but, granted I have roughly 280 hours now, but that's nothing compared to some other players. Overall, I feel like this blacklist is unfair because this has been accompanied with a 48 hour ban, whilst one of the members within the group wasn't even punished, namely being Wobble, who was present during all of this, but was never sanctioned in this PR against Myself, Corgi, Arach and Wobble. 
On a final note, I would like to add that it seems rather harsh to judge people based on their hours on the server, and during this even i honestly did not know the difference between a Hitman and Bounty Hunter, and as I've said on my Unban Request, my actions were based on the assumption that I could carry out the 'Hit' as a bounty hunter.

Evidence: Put anything here that would support your claims like a video or pictures.

Hi James Hellfire,

I've already responded to your unban request so apologies if points are repeated.

My first point of order is to thank you for directing me towards my omission regarding Wobble; I'll be giving him a sanction shortly after this post.

As for your blacklist, I ask that you do not compare other situations to this. Every situation is different and it is up to the admin's jurisdiction as to how they will handle it. It may seem 'harsh' to judge people based on their actions, when that is not what I did. I looked at prior blacklists (both of which involved inappropriate aggressiveness) and yes, your hours.

A player new to the server might not quite understand how things work, however with 280 hours you should know full well that your job shows who you will roleplay as, and that you are responsible for your own actions.

'My actions were based on the assumption that I could carry out the 'Hit' as a bounty hunter.'

'To assume makes an Ass out of  u and me'. As mentioned on your UBR, our disclaimer says:

Quote:If you are not sure if something is allowed or not, ask an admin to clarify.

After Nevy pointed out the difference between a Hitman and Bounty Hunter, you did not own up to your actions, which suggests to me that you have not learnt the difference nor do you feel remorse for doing so.
I am prepared to shorten your blacklist if you can convince me you've learnt the errors you have made and will continue to learn from this blacklist. I don't believe in punishment for the sake of it, so if you can convince me, I'll shorten it.

User has 24 hours to respond.

Thanks,
[L²] Safira

(May 17, 2016, 01:48 PM)Safira Wrote: [ -> ] I don't believe in punishment for the sake of it, so if you can convince me, I'll shorten it.

If I'm honest, I would not entirely know how to utterly convince you, with an apology perhaps? If you could clarify that would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
 James Hellfire

(May 17, 2016, 01:48 PM)Safira Wrote: [ -> ]I am prepared to shorten your blacklist if you can convince me you've learnt the errors you have made and will continue to learn from this blacklist.

An apology would be a good place to start but I don't want to twist your arm such that it sounds forced.
I simply want to hear from you what you've taken from the entire situation and what, if anything, you'll do in the future.

(May 17, 2016, 06:31 PM)Safira Wrote: [ -> ]I simply want to hear from you what you've taken from the entire situation and what, if anything, you'll do in the future.

From this situation, I have learnt that I should never 'Jump The Gun' in these situations, and as I've said in my Unban update, to follow all steps to ensure no discrepancies in the timeline, and to ensure that all my kills are justified. Also, I have taken away to NEVER skip negotiations (if possible) so that a peaceful resolution can be reached, instead of going all in, guns blazing, which may end up in getting the hostage killed. 
In the future, I shall make sure to once more, follow all steps, and try a more passive approach to an extremely aggressive situation. Furthermore, I shall re-read the rules, and familiarize myself with rules regarding Hitmen, hostage situations and shooting, so that (hopefully) nothing like this will happen again, which will in turn aid me to become a better 'Role Model' within the server, and maybe help in my PassiveRP skills.
Cheers,
 James Hellfire

From what I've seen in-game, you and ExorbitantCorgi demonstrate that you're not here to RP but rather to conduct AggressiveRP that treads close to the boundaries or you simply jump right over them.

ie: Just the other day you and ExorbitantCorgi were at a woodcutting area that seemed to be involved in PassiveRP. Corgi had the job title of Woodcutting Patrol or similar and you had the job title of 'Psychopath'. Corgi was arrested for attempted murder and because of this you decided to RDM the President because you were upset he arrested your friend. A staff member dealt with this in-game, however I think it only supports the fact that you should not be unbanned and your BL for weapons should remain.

(May 17, 2016, 11:26 PM)Nevy Wrote: [ -> ]From what I've seen in-game, you and ExorbitantCorgi demonstrate that you're not here to RP but rather to conduct AggressiveRP that treads close to the boundaries or you simply jump right over them.

If you believe I'm doing something wrong, please, PM me.

If I was here to 'Conduct AggressiveRP' constantly, why would i have 280 hours? Albeit, yeah its fun, I mean anything with guns is fun. For that reason in game, I had a nice, civilized chat to Doodleh, about how I could have improved what I did, anyways, that's not the matter at hand.

Also, Nev, if I was always 'on the line', why would I have racked up 280+ hours in the span of a few short months? If you've not caught the gist i like it here at L2, and don't intend on leaving anytime soon. 
Additionally, this was ONE event, that you just so happened to witness this event, and I did have full reason to act how I did, albeit miss a few steps, as I did explain to Doodleh (I think) at the time, to which he explained to me the steps of how I should have gone a bit more passive firstly, and then result to Aggro. Believe it or not, I enjoy doing PassiveRP also, as just the other day I was helping another friend on the server with his Coffee shop, yet you do not mention this.

Your call of RDM of the president at that time, as I said before, afterwards I was dragged to an Admin Sit with Doodleh(Once more, I believe) and the other involed parties, to which he TP'd them back then we had a chat about what happened, then he walked me through how I should have acted, and I took on board his comments, and since then I've made sure to take his comments on board, like I have done with this case and Safira's comments.

On to the job title: I believe that at that time I was finishing up a shootout of some sort, and therefore had that name, and had not yet changed it to a more appropriate name, which I was infact going to do, and change my name to something like Corgi's was. Still, I was never called on, or told by a member of staff that I should change my name, even after all of that, so for that I am sorry, but It's a little thing called human error, as everyone forgets to do things at some point, and I'm sure you have as well.

You may think that this 'incident' is a call to not unban, or unacklist me due to what has happened in this case, but please respect that these are two completely different cases and scenarios, although everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but in my eyes, I have indeed learnt from these two things, and I've (as I've said) taken on board what these members of staff have said, and have since role played a lot better, but that's up for you and the other players to decided, take that as you will. 
If you have any further concerns about myself, or the way I act, I'm only a PM away, and chances are I'll respond, so if you want to continue this chat, then please do, but in my PM box.
Thanks, 
 James Hellfire

Approved; blacklist shortened.

Note: Myself and other staff members expect you to stay true to your statement above. This thread may be brought up in future if the situation calls for it.